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good evening how you doing laughs good

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evening everybody

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fade to black the smoke radio for the

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December 20th 354 days into the new year

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just 11 days left we are live from a

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bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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I'm your host Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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today today is DD five if it is it's BD

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five five days after this closure what

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an extraordinary week it has been

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and tonight's how cool is this tonight

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we have very special guests Marshall

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Summers is joining the show

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Marshall has been talking about exactly

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what went down this week for about 30

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years and before I get around to all of

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that and in Marshall and my excitement

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about the show tonight about I'm gonna

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go back I'm gonna go back about a month

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and I was checking out some oh Marshalls

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stuff and writing you know I'm doing my

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stuff and having fun and researching and

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and and I listened to a couple of

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Marshalls interviews and you know what

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it's about time we get Marshall on the

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show so boom you know we go when we get

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we get all that arranged and we line

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things up and and and it happens we

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booked this the show and you know

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excited about it because of the content

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and I've you know I just it was

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everything that we love to talk about

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and spread that knowledge about right

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Saturday so Wow right and right before

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Christmas today is December 20th heading

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into the new year 2018 it's just 11 days

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away so yeah that makes this show

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tonight all that more important so I'm

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very excited about this and tonight I

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get to get my learn on in front of all

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of you so let's do it together tonight

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Marshall Summers is here tomorrow night

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is another Fator night and no more fake

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room with Jon Rappoport followed by open

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disclosure on Saturday night and then of

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course last night was our fourth

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anniversary show and the subjects

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including the night before with Darryl

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all that mainstream media wants to talk

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about so tomorrow night's gonna be open

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lines all night long we know what the

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what's gonna continue to break overnight

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and throughout tomorrow and how the news

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coverage is going to stay there it has

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mainstream media coverage on disclosure

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it's been a crazy crazy crazy ride and

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so I can't wait I can't wait tomorrow I

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get to talk to all of you and I want to

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hear your happiness your joy your

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concerns are you unhappy all right

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that's gonna be tomorrow night on fade

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okay Twitter at J Church radio very

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simple join in on the conversation

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on twitter at teacher trittye and then

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of course the sandbox which is hashtag

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show tonight or any other night

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hashtag f2b q okay the good news my wife

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and daughter got back from New York and

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they busted into the bunker last night

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during the show towards the end of the

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show and it's you know spend six I know

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Rita says my math is off it doesn't

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matter six to 87 days they spent in New

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York and nothing is cooler than to sit

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with your daughter and listen to her

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until the wee hours of the morning and

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and let her tell you about her first

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trip to Manhattan it doesn't get any

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better than that and it's just great so

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they're safe they're cool and I didn't

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get my New York t-shirt all right I

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my New York teacher thinking about it

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though the last time we were in New York

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last year I didn't get a t-shirt then

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either you know going by I bought

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t-shirts for everybody else by myself

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I do have a you know what I do have

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check this out I'm gonna show this on

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the bunker yeah I got I there's a I got

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this New York Police Department

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okay right it's a New York Police

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Department coffee travel thermal mug

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thing and I got ice tol this I stole it

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I stole this from the set of our new TV

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show on history when we were shooting in

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New York and this was a prop that one of

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the producers bought and it's just one

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of those and nobody asked me about it I

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just I got it into my luggage and got

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this baby oh there you go

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so I did that's what I brought back from

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okay so Rita's back everything is good

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and just an amazing week Rita knew about

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the disclosure stuff and listening to

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her all day today I'm talking about the

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coverage and the different things that

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are going on out there now you know

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she's here and it's it's pretty exciting

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but I got to tell you she brought me

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down to earth about it too as well okay

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let's move on

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you can email throughout the show Jimmy

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and Jimmy Church radio calm simple

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enough now also because Rita is here now

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my email starts to get screened again

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which is also a cool thing our next

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so that'll be Friday night the ancient

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doing a tribute to the late Jim Mars

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and one cannot help but think it was

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just a few months away if he could have

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events of this past weekend he would

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have been my first guest on the show as

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that stuff was breaking I could just

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hear it now well we'll do a tribute to

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the great Jim Mars also Friday night at

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pictures of it it's really really cool

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kiss stick man Peter Chris is 72 now

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what comes to mind when you think about

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the song Beth what is it or is it you

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set that was in the middle of a kiss

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alive to when he opened it up and they

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had the explosions going off remember

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and the big elevator ramps I'm going to

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I'm gonna check in Twitter right now I

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know you guys in Twitter are posting

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pictures of KISS alive - all right yeah

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yeah Scott just posted Jimmy Jim Marrs

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you know what he's also asking all the

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questions Peter Chris today is 72 Jonah

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Hill today is 34 on this day in history

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OTD it went down the big-deal 1957 Elvis

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Presley was drafted say it ain't so Joe

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was got sent to what Frankfort for a

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couple of years fader fact I guess today

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is all Rock and Roll day right Peter

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Criss Elvis Presley well check this out

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it's a fader fact David Bowie had a

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heart attack on stage in 2004 had a

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heart attack paused for a minute shook

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that's it

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that's right alright hey he was on our

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label Jimmy I have an unplugged version

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really I remember seeing Peter Chris's

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band I forget what it was called had a

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yeah I can't I can't remember the name

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religion that is the one segment right

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now that has been strangely silent and

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now the silence of the Oval Office and

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the White House

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yeah that's not as telling you know they

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know that the DoD released this video

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you know so that that you know that just

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that's the way that stuff is going down

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but what's going on with the religious

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side you know in contact an alien

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contact and everything else that we need

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to concentrate on moving forward as as a

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human race on this planet it's exactly

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why Marshall Summers is here so get

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ready for that but also with all of this

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mass media coverage I got to hit this

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coffee here be careful what you wish for

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we've wanted nothing but now this show

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today is day number one of our fifth

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year on the air and I have spent the

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better part of those four years nearly

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every single day on this show discussing

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disclosure I have asked hundreds and

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hundreds of callers into this show

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what's your definition of disclosure on

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the flip side of that I have had

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hundreds and hundreds of phone calls

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both here in our coast-to-coast or the

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first question from that caller is Jimmy

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disclosure when's it gonna get here what

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do you think

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write it the D word and Saturday rolls

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around and we have this massive campaign

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that was started first with the New York

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Times

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and then just took off from there and

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and went around the world on every

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single website news media outlet

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television interviews NPR print every

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form of media cover this story in every

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language okay so now boom there are

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aspects to this that for anyone it's

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exactly what we asked for an official

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government video we have the pilot of

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the plane we have a bonafide

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unidentified flying object UFO shot in

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two different sets of videos we have

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that we have the Pentagon running a UFO

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investigation program when allegedly

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they hadn't been since the closing of

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Project Blue Book but of course we knew

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that that was going on but this was

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convert confirmation that it was indeed

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happening so it allowed all of us in our

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community to go see we're not crazy so

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we have that part and then of course we

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have a senator that's involved and we

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have a Pentagon black budget and we have

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22 million dollars and and so forth now

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this is what we've asked for so now that

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it has happened it is strange to me that

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everybody everybody wanted some mass

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media coverage with UFOs now I can tell

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you after five straight days of UFOs on

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CNN okay five all day long every host

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has had their their their guests on and

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it's been going on all day long now it's

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what you want and now there are those

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out there that are going out and but

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it's the mass media wait a minute

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I can I can assure you of this and it

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doesn't matter who the author is who the

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researcher is it just doesn't matter

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everybody wants coverage in the mass

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media they want

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they want to have that legitimate side

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of their research and their books and

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their story and to be to be out there in

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the mainstream okay so that part of it

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III just don't buy into so if there are

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critics out there are people that you

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know even friend or listeners to this

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show that want to tell me oh man but

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it's the mass media what do you mean

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that's exactly what we've wanted okay

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100% there isn't an author out there

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there's not a researcher author I don't

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care who it is that CNN calls Fox calls

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MSNBC ABC CBS FOX ABC it doesn't matter

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BBC arty it doesn't Bloomberg it doesn't

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matter they call and go hey can you come

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on the air tonight sure can well can you

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check your schedule schedules open I

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don't need to check whatever I have it's

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cancelled and that my friends is the

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truth so with all of that today on CNN

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they bring on the man Neil deGrasse

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Tyson Neil deGrasse Tyson so I watched

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the whole thing just so you know I'm not

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speculating here they bring on that neil

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degrasse now before I get to what he had

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to say let me tell you what I think

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about him I like to show cosmos I like

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the reboot of it got criticism you know

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there's things on it I can critique but

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the show itself is pretty good I like

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that I like the approach to it okay all

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right but that's about it

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Neil deGrasse Tyson astrophysicist

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author right now calls himself a science

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communicator Neil deGrasse Tyson hasn't

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been an astrophysicist a physicist a

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scientist of any kind since 1995 okay he

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hasn't it's been over 20 years since

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he's done research into anything

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anything all he is now today

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is a rock star that's what he is he's a

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celebrity today the only gig that he has

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and it's ceremonial he has been the

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Frederick P Rose director of the Hayden

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Planetarium at the Rose Center for the

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Earth and space in New York City I don't

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even know the last time you spent inside

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that parking lot I don't know the last

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time you spent inside of a lab or done

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any research written a paper submitted a

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paper a look through a telescope I doubt

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he does any of that he's a rock star he

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runs around he speaks publicly he writes

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books does the author book tour thing

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and appears on TV when they need

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comments on stuff and it's a great life

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but that's Neil deGrasse Tyson and and

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I'm just calling it right now because

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nobody wants to just fess up to the

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reality of who Neil deGrasse Tyson is

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I'm not saying he's not smart he's over

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smart and I'm not saying he doesn't have

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a big brain he's got a big brain but

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today on CNN he proved to the world that

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he is a doofus with the big brain and

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I'll stand up to Neil and argue these

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points anytime I've sat and watched him

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with Richard Dawkins I've seen them on

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all the talks I've seen them on their

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long-form interviews I've seen them on

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comedy shows they've seen his comments

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on flattered

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I know Neil and I know his points on

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everything and now I'll take him to task

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now when I say Neil hasn't done anything

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right he hasn't read he hasn't he's a

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rock star today from 1995 to 2005 he

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wrote monthly essays in the universe

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write a column for Natural History

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magazine okay no research he's he's

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writing he published a book death by

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black hole in 2007 and astrophysics four

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people in a hurry in 2017 during the

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same period he wrote a monthly column

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for stardate magazine answering

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questions about the universe under a pen

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name

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Merlin material from the cow

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appeared in his book Marlins tour the

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universe in 1998 and just visiting this

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planet now Tyson served under 2001

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government commission on future of the

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United States aerospace industry have

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you no big deal

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ceremonial thing and then on 2004 moon

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Mars and Beyond Commission he was

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awarded the NASA distinguished Public

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Service Medal the same year from 2006 to

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2011 he hosted the television show Nova

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science on PBS 2009 he's hosted the

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podcast a star talk spin-off also called

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star talked again airing on National

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Geographic in 2015 and also he hosted in

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2014 the reboot of cosmos a spacetime

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Odyssey that is it no research no

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published papers no nothing nothing

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nothing nothing nothing I'm not saying

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he's not a smart guy but he's the wrong

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guy to bring on CNN or anybody else any

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network to talk about disclosure and

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aliens and so he gets on CNN today now

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I'll get to the critic the critique of

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of his doofus Ness today the CNN host

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turns to him and says so what about this

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ah you know the gun camera footage

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obviously it's a UFO your suits an

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unidentified flying object which means

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we don't know what it is well that's

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exactly the point

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Neal and he says immediately diverts

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offer that question and says well there

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was a twenty two million dollar program

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that was instituted to look into this

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and and they that's why they've chosen

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to do this but the twenty two million

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dollar Pentagon now you know there's

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trillions of dollars added to spend in

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the military and 22 million dollars is a

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very little slice of it and so you know

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it's not like that they were doing

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research into this but they should and

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they should look into it but no you know

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this is wait a minute

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the question was what did you think of

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the gun camera footage what did you

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think of that now to divert off of that

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and go into this twenty two million

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dollar program and everything else was

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stunning he couldn't say what he really

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wanted to say

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what he needed to say and what he wanted

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to say was and I know this because he

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said it before but he didn't do it today

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is that you're crazy if you think that

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we're alone in the universe that the

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universe is full of light life and now

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is this a UFO that is alien from out

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there I don't know it looks interesting

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if the Pentagon and a pilot flying this

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airplane and fa-18 captain is looking at

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this and says we've got a bogey I don't

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know what we're looking at look at this

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thing this is absolutely amazing then we

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need to take this pilot for his word

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because he is chasing down something

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that is not of this earth he's never

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seen anything like it we have to trust

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an f-18 Hornets eyes so we need to know

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we need to go and look into this it may

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not be from here and if it's not I'm

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interested in this and I think we should

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go and find out know Tyson decided to

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laugh ha ha ha ha come on and that's the

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wrong way to approach any of this if you

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are an astrophysicists interested in the

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universe and continued research and are

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wondering what is going on out there in

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our universe and if we are being visited

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on this planet that is exactly as an

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astrophysicist what you should be

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interested in and you finally have some

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evidence you know that the Pentagon is

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involved possibly the CIA the former

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and

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and people coming out talking about this

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program you should say I want to know

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what's going on this is great

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I have been wondering since I was a

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little kid if we're alone in the

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universe and finally we've got something

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like this here that seems absolutely

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legit with a chain of custody behind the

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video I want to know because as I look

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at this video certainly this thing is

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traveling

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high-speed it went just so everybody

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understands here

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it went from a standing spot in one

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place to one back to its cap point right

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at 3800 miles an hour and it and and it

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did it instantly now also also that

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there's two sets of footage here which

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Tyson has seen both one video shows the

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tic-tac UFO sitting there off the

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surface of the ocean any and and and

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flavor is is zoning in on the nose with

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his aircraft and it's just sitting there

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when this takes off

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according to fray vers testimony he said

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there was no ripples in the water there

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was no air turbulence there was no

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distortion on the water surface that you

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would see from a helicopter form of

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plane from a turboprop from a jet engine

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anything like that you would see the

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disturbing and none of that was there it

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was gone now certainly an astrophysicist

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that wants to make comments about alien

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life in the universe would be interested

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in a statement like that but what Neil

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deGrasse Tyson proved to us today is

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that he's a doofus he's a talking head

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and he's a rock star and now he is

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completely out of his wheelhouse and as

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sorry as I am to say this and I loved

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cosmos neil degrasse tyson today in

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dismissing this when finally there was

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something there for all of us to discuss

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and he has chosen to make fun of it is

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now in my world a canceled check sorry

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Neil that's just the way that it is a

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couple of years ago reached out to him

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for you know to be a guest on the show I

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rescind the offer

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I'm just not concerned he's shown his

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colors this is fade to black tonight

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Marshall Sommers is here very excited

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about this show tonight

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so you stay right there I'm your host

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Tim you Church on the game changer

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network and KCRA the planet email is

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Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com you

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right back with our guest Marshall

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summers stay with us

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all right welcome back

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I'm your host Jimmy church this is fade

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to black our guest tonight Marshall

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Summers this segment of pay to black is

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friends and family were all on the life

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change t program let's go to the banners

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marshall summers he's been immersed in

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the religious experience for the past 35

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years this has resulted in his receiving

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a vast body of writings about the nature

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of human spirituality and humanity's

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destiny with a larger apparent panorama

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of intelligent life in the universe

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these writings encompassed the teaching

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in the new message contain a theological

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framework that accounts for life and the

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presence of God in the greater community

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the vast expanse of space and time that

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we know to be our universe the cosmology

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00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:01,370
that he has been receiving contains many

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00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:03,470
messages and one of which is that

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humanity is emerging into a greater

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community of intelligent life and for

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this we must prepare inherent in this

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message is the understanding that

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humanity is not alone in the universe or

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even alone within our own world and that

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within this greater community humanity

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will have friends competitors and

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adversaries tonight we're gonna be

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talking about disclosure alien contact

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climate change and of course religion

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and much much more I would like to

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welcome a fade to black for the first

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time Marshall Summers Marshall good

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evening good evening how are you I'm

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doing very well good to be with you it's

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a pretty exciting times my friend yes it

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is there's a lot happening in the world

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and we're going to a real change instead

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of changes in many different levels the

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you need to turn me down in the

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background whatever that is Attabad echo

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coming back the the timing of you coming

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on the show tonight which is great

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you know it's called synchronicity right

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you never ignore those but I had

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mentioned in in the opening of the show

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tonight that last month maybe two months

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ago last month I went through this whole

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Marshall Sommers phase right and I was

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just reading your stuff and and and was

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listening to some interviews and I just

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00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:28,490
thought the timing is right we've got to

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get Marshall on the show and so we

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00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:33,829
reached out and and here you are but

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what you and I didn't know was that this

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Saturday was gonna break out in

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mainstream media talking about these

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00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:43,839
subjects that you have been trying to

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bring out into the public for free if

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00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:50,930
decades right how do you feel about yeah

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how do you feel about what went down on

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Saturday and what continues to go down

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right now well it's a wonderful thing to

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have this information revealed I always

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ask myself why now is this simply to be

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a temperature test for the public to see

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how many people will respond is it a

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slow leak process by which we're being

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acclimated to the reality of visitation

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in our world is it something that

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happened in spite of all of the

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obstacles that have been set in place

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and I really can't answer these

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questions and I won't try but I think

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it's an important thing because

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educating people about this is of the

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utmost importance this is the greatest

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event in human history and people are

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unaware and they're unprepared and and

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we can certainly talk more about this

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but I feel that this is the biggest

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event that we've ever experienced and

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could hold great promise for us as well

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as great hazard I have watched a bunch

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of you and listened to a bunch of your

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interviews over the years and I I want

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to say this I felt that those that were

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doing the interviews were out of their

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wheelhouse right they may not have fully

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00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:16,069
understood not only your message and

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what you're trying to relay but the

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bigger question too of

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the question of life in the universe and

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have we been visited here and you you I

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think that your message was always on

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point but did you feel that you

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00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:35,359
struggled with that trying to get the

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media out there to understand what the

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message is and I still do today even

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after all of this with the mainstream

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media I think that those hosts out there

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are still struggling because they don't

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really understand the information that

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is is right there in front of them yes

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00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:53,990
there was a struggle and I still find

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this at times but I think things have

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changed I think certain windows have

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00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:00,680
been opened now that really weren't open

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before we've turned some corners and

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maybe they were invisible corners to us

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but I think there's a real out reaching

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out for people to know about the

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00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:14,320
phenomenon that we're experiencing I

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have readers in 113 countries so it's

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00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:20,109
telling me that people around the world

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different faiths cultures everything are

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having some kind of core experience or

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sharing some kind of experience or

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00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:29,420
awareness that were not alone in our own

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world and that's something about the

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nature of our world the feeling of being

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00:38:40,540 --> 00:38:37,940
here has really changed I have a very

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00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:40,550
big message and sometimes hosts really

787
00:38:45,550 --> 00:38:42,980
didn't give me the opportunity to to

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kind of create a panorama a context for

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the things that I wanted to say and that

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00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:50,000
made it very difficult for me to deliver

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00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:51,710
the core messages that I wanted to

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00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:55,130
deliver yeah you know what I always got

793
00:39:00,700 --> 00:38:58,430
and this is you're gonna enjoy this show

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00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:00,710
tonight for sure because it'll be the

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exact opposite but I think a lot of the

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00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:06,050
hosts wanted to go with the the shock

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value of what aliens and religion you

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00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:11,600
know you know what you know and they

799
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wanted you know and and their that was

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00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:18,109
their angle for it completely missing

801
00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:22,369
the mark Marshall yes well you know our

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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:24,470
venturing into a greater community of

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00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:27,050
intelligent life over time we'll have

804
00:39:30,849 --> 00:39:29,510
all the religions needing to reassess

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00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:30,859
their fundamental beliefs and

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00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:33,410
assumptions we're dealing with the god

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00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:34,160
of the whole great

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00:39:38,589 --> 00:39:35,990
community now we're not dealing with a

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00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,599
God of our one world a God of our human

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00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:41,359
history a God of our culture a God of

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our passions a God of our temperament

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00:39:49,539 --> 00:39:46,309
we're dealing with something just much

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00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:49,549
much greater and I think this is a an

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evolutionary step for us a very big one

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but as we've known in history that

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religion often is the last to be able to

817
00:40:04,779 --> 00:40:01,430
respond to these kinds of great steps

818
00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:04,789
these evolutionary steps have a huge

819
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:06,680
amount invested in a certain way of

820
00:40:11,319 --> 00:40:09,049
looking at life in the world and they're

821
00:40:12,789 --> 00:40:11,329
only looking at our world but when we

822
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:12,799
see ourselves within this greater

823
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:15,920
community of life that begins to open

824
00:40:22,809 --> 00:40:19,369
all kinds of doors for us why the

825
00:40:25,539 --> 00:40:22,819
silence over the these past few days

826
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:25,549
from the religious community that's the

827
00:40:29,410 --> 00:40:28,010
that's the voice here that hasn't hasn't

828
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:29,420
stepped up yet what do you think is

829
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:31,970
going on well I think they don't know

830
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:34,130
what to say it's not part of their

831
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:35,450
framework it's not part of their

832
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:38,690
theology they can only assume that we're

833
00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:40,510
probably not alone in the universe

834
00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:42,230
because that's the most reasonable

835
00:40:48,250 --> 00:40:45,980
explanation they can give the theology

836
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:48,260
of our existing religions cannot account

837
00:40:56,650 --> 00:40:51,680
for this except perhaps in vague

838
00:41:00,039 --> 00:40:56,660
symbology but we're at a transition now

839
00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:00,049
into becoming a world people into

840
00:41:04,450 --> 00:41:02,329
becoming a people who are attempting to

841
00:41:06,819 --> 00:41:04,460
emerge into this larger arena of life as

842
00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:06,829
a free and sovereign race and it's a

843
00:41:10,539 --> 00:41:09,380
very great challenge to do that we have

844
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:10,549
obstacles from within

845
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:13,910
we have obstacles from without and the

846
00:41:19,859 --> 00:41:17,569
outcome is uncertain yet I was asked

847
00:41:23,799 --> 00:41:19,869
recently in a show that given all the

848
00:41:26,349 --> 00:41:23,809
adversity facing us don't you get

849
00:41:28,539 --> 00:41:26,359
discouraged don't you just want to give

850
00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:28,549
up it seems like almost the mission

851
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:32,180
impossible and I said to the host you

852
00:41:37,059 --> 00:41:35,210
know we do this anyway even if the odds

853
00:41:39,370 --> 00:41:37,069
are completely against us we do this

854
00:41:42,329 --> 00:41:39,380
anyway all right what's the alternative

855
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:42,339
right well absolutely and you know

856
00:41:47,549 --> 00:41:44,930
anything that has ever really happened

857
00:41:49,949 --> 00:41:47,559
in the world of any real significance

858
00:41:54,569 --> 00:41:49,959
has always had to face almost

859
00:41:58,949 --> 00:41:54,579
insurmountable odds and so I feel that

860
00:42:01,890 --> 00:41:58,959
we have a chance we have a real chance

861
00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:01,900
now before the internet becomes

862
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,999
completely shut down before world

863
00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:05,920
communication becomes completely shut

864
00:42:10,469 --> 00:42:08,380
down we have a chance I'm sure that's

865
00:42:13,949 --> 00:42:10,479
why you're the host that you are we have

866
00:42:15,299 --> 00:42:13,959
a chance this is our opportunity this is

867
00:42:17,309 --> 00:42:15,309
our opportunity to bring something to

868
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,319
people that they're reaching for but

869
00:42:21,329 --> 00:42:19,119
cannot get from their religions cannot

870
00:42:23,819 --> 00:42:21,339
get from their government cannot get

871
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:23,829
from culture and society you know

872
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:25,209
there's a lot of people I think in the

873
00:42:29,989 --> 00:42:27,849
world today who have a real what I call

874
00:42:32,189 --> 00:42:29,999
a greater community history to them

875
00:42:34,170 --> 00:42:32,199
somehow they have an innate connection

876
00:42:35,759 --> 00:42:34,180
to life in the universe right

877
00:42:38,789 --> 00:42:35,769
they've an eighth interest in than a

878
00:42:40,259 --> 00:42:38,799
poll or draw you know they could end up

879
00:42:43,019 --> 00:42:40,269
being astronomers they could end up

880
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:43,029
being ufologists they could end up being

881
00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:46,930
just natural Scot stargazers but there's

882
00:42:51,739 --> 00:42:49,150
many people in the world today I feel

883
00:42:54,779 --> 00:42:51,749
and I'm seeing from the response that

884
00:42:57,509 --> 00:42:54,789
have this natural desire to know this

885
00:43:00,679 --> 00:42:57,519
need to know but who can answer their

886
00:43:03,449 --> 00:43:00,689
questions really who can point away

887
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:03,459
except in programs such as your program

888
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:06,910
right the media is pretty closed down to

889
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:11,140
this the education is not happening on

890
00:43:16,919 --> 00:43:15,249
any kind of large or visible scale but

891
00:43:22,339 --> 00:43:16,929
when I hear about secret groups in China

892
00:43:24,779 --> 00:43:22,349
studying the alien presence or UFOs and

893
00:43:29,549 --> 00:43:24,789
other places who you wouldn't expect

894
00:43:31,769 --> 00:43:29,559
Islamic countries for example then it's

895
00:43:34,099 --> 00:43:31,779
telling me that there is a natural time

896
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,109
this is the time for this

897
00:43:38,989 --> 00:43:36,640
but this time won't last forever it's

898
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:38,999
like a window it's like a launch window

899
00:43:46,709 --> 00:43:42,209
the opportunities begin to line up and

900
00:43:49,319 --> 00:43:46,719
things begin to happen and this is this

901
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:49,329
is our time when did you when did you

902
00:43:56,429 --> 00:43:53,410
start to establish this framework what

903
00:43:58,650 --> 00:43:56,439
did you always have that that question

904
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:58,660
as a child you know as a young man

905
00:44:00,980 --> 00:43:59,130
looking

906
00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:00,990
to the stars like you know we all did

907
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:03,360
right was it was at that you know

908
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:05,730
because you have the religious training

909
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:09,570
and education to as well and they don't

910
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:13,170
normally parallel themselves so for you

911
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:15,920
how did this how did this come about

912
00:44:21,310 --> 00:44:19,170
well you know until this process of

913
00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:21,320
Revelation began for me I really wasn't

914
00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:23,400
looking at the life in the universe

915
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:24,870
question I was looking more at the

916
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,760
environmental problems of the world I

917
00:44:31,070 --> 00:44:29,040
was looking at the problems of religion

918
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:31,080
which were just not answering these

919
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:32,940
innate needs within myself because

920
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,760
somehow we're entering into something

921
00:44:41,110 --> 00:44:38,400
very different now this is a non-human

922
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,120
universe that we're emerging into and

923
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:43,680
it's we're not emerging because of our

924
00:44:47,770 --> 00:44:45,900
journeys into space but because of the

925
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:47,780
presence of those who are with us right

926
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:49,380
presidents in our world

927
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,660
so I began then to really be prepared to

928
00:44:59,690 --> 00:44:56,640
look at what I call the whole greater

929
00:45:00,980 --> 00:44:59,700
community issue in reality as part of

930
00:45:05,210 --> 00:45:00,990
the revelation that I have been

931
00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:05,220
experiencing beginning in 1981 what

932
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:10,380
happened in 81 in 1981 I had an epiphany

933
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:15,690
a great presence came over me and just

934
00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:19,410
sort of shattered my life by the sheer

935
00:45:26,830 --> 00:45:22,260
force of its it was gracious but so

936
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:26,840
powerful and after this happened I

937
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:29,670
looked at my life and I just knew that I

938
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:30,900
was going to have to change everything

939
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:34,170
so I wandered for nine months I gave up

940
00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:37,890
my students I gave up my programs I was

941
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:39,540
teaching at that time I left my

942
00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:41,130
relationships and I wandered for nine

943
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:43,830
months and it ended up in the desert of

944
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:45,930
the American Southwest and this presence

945
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:48,860
came again not quite so forcibly and

946
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:52,170
told me to return to the city and begin

947
00:45:58,670 --> 00:45:55,410
to record I was all it said right no

948
00:46:00,380 --> 00:45:58,680
explanation but I Nate Lee knew what

949
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,390
this meant this meant that I had

950
00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:02,640
something to receive that had to be

951
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:03,870
received and that would have been the

952
00:46:10,970 --> 00:46:07,500
January of 1982 and that was the very

953
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:10,980
beginning of this but interestingly this

954
00:46:15,799 --> 00:46:13,619
greater community part of this whole

955
00:46:20,779 --> 00:46:15,809
began to be given to me at the beginning

956
00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:20,789
and the orientation to that it was like

957
00:46:27,609 --> 00:46:23,640
I had to get out of my human only

958
00:46:29,929 --> 00:46:27,619
reality and begin to think about our

959
00:46:33,169 --> 00:46:29,939
destiny in the universe full of

960
00:46:38,449 --> 00:46:33,179
Television life what we know thing about

961
00:46:42,259 --> 00:46:38,459
was it was it religious was it was that

962
00:46:44,509 --> 00:46:42,269
communication religious or did you were

963
00:46:45,769 --> 00:46:44,519
you able to identify where you know how

964
00:46:49,219 --> 00:46:45,779
and what you know where it was coming

965
00:46:51,469 --> 00:46:49,229
from well the experience of the Divine

966
00:46:53,659 --> 00:46:51,479
Presence which was so powerful was

967
00:46:55,429 --> 00:46:53,669
definitely a religious experience for me

968
00:46:57,739 --> 00:46:55,439
right but I was not sneaking about

969
00:47:00,529 --> 00:46:57,749
religion at that time right I couldn't

970
00:47:02,389 --> 00:47:00,539
see in religion the answers to the

971
00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:02,399
questions that were beginning to emerge

972
00:47:09,259 --> 00:47:05,880
for me that's I was beginning to wonder

973
00:47:10,819 --> 00:47:09,269
where we are really going we all go

974
00:47:12,139 --> 00:47:10,829
through that struggle oh I'm sorry I

975
00:47:16,399 --> 00:47:12,149
didn't mean to interrupt

976
00:47:18,499 --> 00:47:16,409
yes yes but yeah we all go through that

977
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:18,509
and we're especially when I look back to

978
00:47:26,449 --> 00:47:22,169
1981-82 a strange time for the country

979
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,459
but I also went through a few epiphanies

980
00:47:32,899 --> 00:47:28,559
too as well that involved religion and

981
00:47:35,289 --> 00:47:32,909
UFOs it was but I was only 21 at the

982
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:35,299
time and I think we all go through that

983
00:47:39,859 --> 00:47:38,130
but there's there's a couple of direct

984
00:47:42,739 --> 00:47:39,869
questions that I want to ask you about

985
00:47:45,649 --> 00:47:42,749
one of them is this I

986
00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:45,659
I often ingest but I actually really

987
00:47:50,899 --> 00:47:48,839
mean what I'm about to say you know you

988
00:47:52,669 --> 00:47:50,909
hear the comments over and over about

989
00:47:54,649 --> 00:47:52,679
well why doesn't you know what does an

990
00:47:56,539 --> 00:47:54,659
ET just land that flying saucer on the

991
00:47:58,009 --> 00:47:56,549
White House lawn you know if we all had

992
00:48:03,319 --> 00:47:58,019
a nickel for every time we for that

993
00:48:05,509 --> 00:48:03,329
statement but I imagine Marshall if it

994
00:48:08,089 --> 00:48:05,519
lands and the stairs

995
00:48:13,870 --> 00:48:08,099
you know descend and now from the bottom

996
00:48:19,249 --> 00:48:16,519
just like and he's standing there gone

997
00:48:24,409 --> 00:48:19,259
okay man I'm back what's up everybody

998
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:24,419
and and wouldn't that be because if we

999
00:48:29,450 --> 00:48:26,250
look at the universe as a

1000
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:29,460
whole a that we're talking about as

1001
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:31,230
something all-encompassing

1002
00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:36,930
of everything right so why yes I don't

1003
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:38,790
put that out of the realm possibility

1004
00:48:43,850 --> 00:48:41,370
here you know and I don't push the

1005
00:48:46,580 --> 00:48:43,860
religious card but I would not be

1006
00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:46,590
surprised if that actually happened what

1007
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:48,630
do you think about that thought well

1008
00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:50,190
that's interesting you bring that up

1009
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,390
because there's a part of the revelation

1010
00:48:58,940 --> 00:48:55,920
called the dangerous second coming

1011
00:49:02,510 --> 00:48:58,950
mm-hmm where someone who is in the

1012
00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:02,520
persona of Jesus returns claiming to be

1013
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,820
Jesus appearing like our normal images

1014
00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:07,440
of Jesus but really is part of the

1015
00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:09,660
intervention the alien intervention

1016
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:14,550
right that we are so conditioned to be

1017
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:17,180
unquestioning about certain things that

1018
00:49:24,590 --> 00:49:22,050
that could work in fact the intervention

1019
00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:24,600
can present holographic images of our

1020
00:49:30,830 --> 00:49:27,990
saviors and our Saints at the foot of

1021
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:30,840
our bed and command us to do certain

1022
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:31,440
things

1023
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:34,410
I mean you makes you wonder how many

1024
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:36,990
future terrorists had the image of

1025
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:39,330
Mohammed appear holographically in their

1026
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:43,980
room and direct them to jihad mm-hmm see

1027
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:47,490
this is this is the skill of those who

1028
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:48,660
are visiting our world they are not a

1029
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:50,970
military force they're not large a

1030
00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:52,970
number but they have great skills in

1031
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:55,380
affecting our thinking our feelings

1032
00:50:01,940 --> 00:49:58,140
emotions in projecting things into our

1033
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:01,950
minds that we respond to in predictable

1034
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:05,040
ways they can speak to our religious

1035
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:07,730
beliefs in ways that will undermine us

1036
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:10,710
this is a this is how things work out

1037
00:50:14,090 --> 00:50:12,330
there you know we're not living in a

1038
00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:14,100
Star Wars universe we're living in a

1039
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:16,680
universe where races have evolved beyond

1040
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:19,680
outright conflict and use more subtle

1041
00:50:24,350 --> 00:50:22,680
means of persuasion and deception to

1042
00:50:27,830 --> 00:50:24,360
exert their influence upon one another

1043
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:27,840
and now upon our whole world of Earth do

1044
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:30,180
you think that's what is part of what

1045
00:50:36,210 --> 00:50:35,730
went down this weekend you know that's a

1046
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:36,220
good question

1047
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:39,609
I I think there's something very genuine

1048
00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:43,119
that prompted this now other people may

1049
00:50:48,030 --> 00:50:46,060
read it differently I was very glad to

1050
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:48,040
see it of course I copied it and sent it

1051
00:50:56,780 --> 00:50:53,590
out to many many people I think anything

1052
00:51:02,490 --> 00:50:56,790
that can educate about the reality of

1053
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:02,500
the visitation is beneficial as long as

1054
00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:06,330
no interpretation is added on to it

1055
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:09,460
she's the interpretation that fools

1056
00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:13,990
people the many people who had sightings

1057
00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:16,780
all over the world most of whom are

1058
00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:18,520
probably too afraid to come forth and

1059
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:21,340
speak about it they know they saw

1060
00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:25,690
something they don't really even need to

1061
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:30,580
be told what it was they know it wasn't

1062
00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:35,440
us but the problem with religion is

1063
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:38,700
religion conditions people to see things

1064
00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:42,240
based on faith rather than on

1065
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:46,540
observation and clear thinking religion

1066
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:49,650
tends to become delusional in this way

1067
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:51,910
particularly amongst uneducated people

1068
00:51:57,570 --> 00:51:54,280
but educated people as well sure

1069
00:52:02,010 --> 00:51:57,580
I think the religious viewpoint is very

1070
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:02,020
very skewed and one has to be willing to

1071
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,700
set aside their beliefs at least

1072
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:06,160
temporarily to see something clearly

1073
00:52:11,849 --> 00:52:09,280
like this because the visitation in the

1074
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:11,859
world today is not a fulfillment of our

1075
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:14,530
religious prophesies beliefs or

1076
00:52:21,859 --> 00:52:18,550
expectations it is an act of nature how

1077
00:52:24,839 --> 00:52:21,869
so we can talk yeah yeah how so how so

1078
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:24,849
because in nature competition is a

1079
00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:28,690
fundamental element of nature this is a

1080
00:52:36,839 --> 00:52:32,280
natural event in that light the universe

1081
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:36,849
is also part of nature the evolution of

1082
00:52:42,990 --> 00:52:38,950
life is part of nature competition in

1083
00:52:45,810 --> 00:52:43,000
life is nature so I think before we

1084
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:45,820
assign other kinds of meanings to those

1085
00:52:49,290 --> 00:52:47,980
who are present in our world we have to

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00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:49,300
look at this

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00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:54,490
at that fundamental level competition

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00:53:00,570 --> 00:52:57,310
means that other races want what we have

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00:53:04,110 --> 00:53:00,580
we are degrading the world so rapidly a

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00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:04,120
world of immense value a world that is

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00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:08,230
rare in a universe of barren planets and

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00:53:13,410 --> 00:53:10,150
naturally others will seek to gain an

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00:53:17,730 --> 00:53:13,420
opportunity to take it from us in this

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00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:17,740
case without the use of force one of the

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00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:20,740
things Marshall that I just brought up

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00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:23,680
the Vatican but also all of the world's

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00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:26,050
religions right now are strangely silent

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00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:28,990
but one of the things that we have been

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00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:32,380
told inside and outside of the UFO

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00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:36,610
community is that disclosure happens we

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00:53:44,060 --> 00:53:40,750
have anarchy we have pandemonium the the

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00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:44,070
economy collapses borders collapse and

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00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:47,470
religion collapses that they won't know

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00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:50,380
what to do with themselves well ok so we

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00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:51,730
haven't heard from the Vatican we

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00:53:56,070 --> 00:53:54,610
haven't heard from Saudi Arabia we

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:56,080
haven't heard from Israel we haven't

1108
00:54:05,040 --> 00:53:59,010
heard from anybody right now but also

1109
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:05,050
the the religious of the world haven't

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00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:07,810
freaked out I don't I don't see you know

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00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:10,290
tires being burned in the streets and

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00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:13,450
and churches burned a mosque burned I

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00:54:19,230 --> 00:54:16,350
haven't seen any of that and that is

1114
00:54:22,140 --> 00:54:19,240
surprising to me I'm happy about it but

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00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:22,150
is there this it's like is it non

1116
00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:25,300
interests you know shouldn't there be a

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00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:26,920
little bit more shock value and

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00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:31,690
questions put on the table well that's a

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00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:33,610
very good question I mean the Vatican

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00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:35,920
has two observatories one in Tucson and

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00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,960
one in Italy I mean they don't want they

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00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:39,520
want to keep up with this they don't

1123
00:54:44,310 --> 00:54:41,830
want to become irrelevant they didn't

1124
00:54:46,340 --> 00:54:44,320
want to become a relic of the past so

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00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:46,350
they're taking a very proactive approach

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00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:50,200
other religious bodies it's really hard

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00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:52,600
to tell and if they are looking at this

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00:54:57,090 --> 00:54:54,760
they're not talking about it you know

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:54:57,100
because if you begin to talk about this

1130
00:55:02,070 --> 00:55:00,010
it immediately puts your religious

1131
00:55:05,070 --> 00:55:02,080
context into question

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00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:05,080
how relevant is my religion to life

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00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:07,870
beyond my world this world because life

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00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:11,230
beyond this world is life we live in the

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00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:13,090
greater community we've always lived in

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00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:14,980
the greater community it's been the

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00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:17,250
context for our existence the whole way

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00:55:23,610 --> 00:55:20,760
but when that becomes a conscious thing

1139
00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:23,620
now we begin to kind of shake the

1140
00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:26,830
foundation of our understanding which i

1141
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,070
think is extremely beneficial if it can

1142
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:33,040
be presented you know in a very clear

1143
00:55:38,490 --> 00:55:36,010
and compassionate manner but for many

1144
00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:38,500
people whose whole life is based on

1145
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:39,820
their faith tradition their faith

1146
00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:42,400
understanding this is like a revolution

1147
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:45,640
in thinking this is like an earthquake

1148
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:48,430
underneath their feet and so they don't

1149
00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:52,510
go there because of their comfort zone

1150
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:54,820
because it upsets their their world

1151
00:55:59,370 --> 00:55:58,000
paradigm and the religious parents you

1152
00:56:03,270 --> 00:55:59,380
know it's it's their identity

1153
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,280
I mean religion is about identity but I

1154
00:56:07,230 --> 00:56:05,440
mean religion is about other things I

1155
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:07,240
don't want to say that as a total

1156
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:09,430
definition no no I understand but

1157
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:12,910
religion becomes identity and identity

1158
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:18,000
is something people fight for guard

1159
00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:24,180
unknowingly irrationally identity I

1160
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:26,590
think the people who are going to break

1161
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,450
the ground here are these people that I

1162
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:30,880
call greater community people people who

1163
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:33,970
have this natural need to know this

1164
00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:37,710
natural inclination to be connected to

1165
00:56:42,750 --> 00:56:40,120
life in the universe as if they're

1166
00:56:44,670 --> 00:56:42,760
they've come from there or they have

1167
00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:44,680
some kind of association there that's

1168
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:47,020
innate to who they are being in the

1169
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:49,090
world at this time and there's a

1170
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:51,850
spiritual perspective about that that I

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00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:53,650
think could be valuable for us to

1172
00:56:57,540 --> 00:56:54,400
understand

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00:56:59,730 --> 00:56:57,550
I certainly am considering it and that

1174
00:57:01,530 --> 00:56:59,740
is that you know the people who are in

1175
00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:01,540
the world today have come into the world

1176
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:04,750
each with a purpose to be in the world

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00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:08,970
at this time under these circumstances

1178
00:57:15,290 --> 00:57:13,350
it's a sense of innate purpose it also

1179
00:57:18,620 --> 00:57:15,300
implies that each of us

1180
00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:18,630
has a destiny here it is about where the

1181
00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:21,000
world is and where it's going because we

1182
00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:22,230
are at the greatest turning point in

1183
00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:25,590
history right now what happens what

1184
00:57:31,310 --> 00:57:28,080
happens in the next 20 or 30 years will

1185
00:57:33,470 --> 00:57:31,320
determine the outcome for everyone we're

1186
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:33,480
living in a time frame of just immense

1187
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:36,180
consequence and I think that falls into

1188
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:39,600
two big categories one is the

1189
00:57:44,810 --> 00:57:41,460
consequences of how we've changed the

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00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:44,820
world and its climate and the second is

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00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:48,630
our encounter with forces from this

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00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:51,570
greater community of life I you know I

1193
00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:52,950
don't think it's a twenty to thirty

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00:57:58,820 --> 00:57:55,380
years I think it's more like 20 to 30

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00:58:00,140 --> 00:57:58,830
hours Marshall these are critical these

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00:58:02,270 --> 00:58:00,150
are critical times we need to take a

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00:58:04,790 --> 00:58:02,280
break right here so let's do just that

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our guest tonight is Marshall summers um

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we're gonna continue this discussion on

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disclosure and alien contact and of

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course climate change our earth humans

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00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:15,510
human beings humanity and religion and

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:17,730
much more I'm your signatures this is

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fade to black more of Marshall Summers

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after this short break stay with us

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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intellectuals both dinner parties and

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then you know conferences and route

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:51,060
across the country and and we get

1282
01:02:57,350 --> 01:02:53,850
together and we sit around and we have

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01:02:59,810 --> 01:02:57,360
those conversations like a Paris cafe in

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01:03:01,850 --> 01:02:59,820
1930 right drinking coffee

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01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:01,860
getting all intellectual and

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:04,140
philosophical and and so I'm talking

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:04,530
about

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01:03:09,290 --> 01:03:06,890
researchers authors contactees

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01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:09,300
experiencers and so forth and we love

1290
01:03:15,350 --> 01:03:11,310
talking about UFOs that's what we do and

1291
01:03:18,260 --> 01:03:15,360
but it in evitable the conversation will

1292
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:18,270
switch to religion and what and and none

1293
01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:20,010
of us are experts here right but we

1294
01:03:24,530 --> 01:03:22,590
always want to ask the you know the

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01:03:31,790 --> 01:03:24,540
bigger questions and one of those

1296
01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:31,800
questions is this is et experiencing

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01:03:37,940 --> 01:03:34,200
religion like we do here do they have

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01:03:41,540 --> 01:03:37,950
the same God did they go through you

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01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:41,550
know the Sun of Jesus or the cross did

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01:03:48,260 --> 01:03:44,310
they go through the same things here on

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earth across the universe and is that is

1302
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:51,480
it that universal you're on the show I

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01:03:57,980 --> 01:03:53,850
have to ask you that question well this

1304
01:04:00,890 --> 01:03:57,990
is a good question and those visiting

1305
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:00,900
our world if they are religious it's

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01:04:07,580 --> 01:04:03,690
something very foreign to anything that

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01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:07,590
we know but the important thing that I'm

1308
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:09,660
really interested in very important to

1309
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:13,440
me is the understanding of who God is

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01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:15,990
because if God is the source of all

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01:04:20,359 --> 01:04:17,670
sentient life in the universe the

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physical universe in this galaxy other

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galaxies other dimensions and in

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timeless reality beyond the physical

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realm all

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together we're talking about a God of

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:32,600
such immense proportions something the

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01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:34,730
ancients could never even think of or

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01:04:39,810 --> 01:04:36,550
conceive of and that's why God was

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portrayed with human qualities human

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01:04:45,730 --> 01:04:42,440
emotions human motivations and so forth

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01:04:53,250 --> 01:04:45,740
now we're facing a God of the entire

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now that doesn't mean that all races are

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01:05:01,740 --> 01:04:58,280
religion in fact the new message tells

1325
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:01,750
tells us that most of the great the big

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:04,010
technological races are very secular in

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:07,970
nature that they try to make the

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governments of these worlds godlike or

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you know this the focus of devotion

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01:05:19,210 --> 01:05:17,210
solely because religion can definitely

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01:05:23,530 --> 01:05:19,220
compete with secular powers as has been

1332
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:23,540
the case in history of our world but the

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01:05:30,310 --> 01:05:26,240
god part of this is part of the reason

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01:05:32,620 --> 01:05:30,320
that people cannot seem to grasp what

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01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:32,630
we're talking about when we talk about

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life in the universe it's almost like

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01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:39,260
they get stopped short because they

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01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:43,280
cannot understand how that would blend

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01:05:51,820 --> 01:05:46,990
with their notion or belief about God

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01:05:54,190 --> 01:05:51,830
it's a huge impediment and I think

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01:05:55,780 --> 01:05:54,200
religion ultimately is about something

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01:05:57,940 --> 01:05:55,790
bigger than our theology

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01:06:00,190 --> 01:05:57,950
but bigger than our belief systems

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01:06:01,660 --> 01:06:00,200
bigger than our traditions it has to do

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01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:01,670
with an innate intelligence that lives

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:05,210
within us that is our God connection in

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the new message this is called knowledge

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01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:08,930
it's referring to our ability to have

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profound knowing and insight beyond time

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01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:14,870
and space beyond any kind of rational

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01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:18,110
process that we may feel is necessary to

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01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:20,000
have understanding we're able to have

1353
01:06:25,390 --> 01:06:22,520
deeper understanding in a very innate

1354
01:06:27,490 --> 01:06:25,400
and natural way and I think this deeper

1355
01:06:31,810 --> 01:06:27,500
understanding plays a critical role in

1356
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:31,820
our ability to understand the alien

1357
01:06:35,770 --> 01:06:33,590
presence that's in the world today as

1358
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:35,780
well as every other aspect of our life

1359
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:38,180
here on earth I mean we are living now

1360
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:40,140
at a time when

1361
01:06:45,110 --> 01:06:42,930
things are breaking down some of these

1362
01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:45,120
things need to break down some of them

1363
01:06:51,740 --> 01:06:48,150
tragically break down but our belief

1364
01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:51,750
about God is breaking down and what's

1365
01:06:56,650 --> 01:06:54,420
breaking it down is our merchants into

1366
01:06:59,360 --> 01:06:56,660
this universe full of intelligent life

1367
01:07:03,170 --> 01:06:59,370
because it's a reality that over time

1368
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:03,180
will become so irrefutable will become

1369
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:04,410
so ridiculous

1370
01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:07,710
to deny it and even you know even

1371
01:07:12,350 --> 01:07:09,630
rational people who have never even

1372
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,360
thought about this I've heard them say

1373
01:07:15,380 --> 01:07:14,160
to me so you know I know we've just got

1374
01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:15,390
to be other races out there I'm just

1375
01:07:20,750 --> 01:07:17,990
impossible that were the only ones and

1376
01:07:23,330 --> 01:07:20,760
now we have science finding you know

1377
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:23,340
terrestrial planets Bailey

1378
01:07:29,690 --> 01:07:25,890
it was there was an article in the major

1379
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:29,700
newspapers today about bacteria fountain

1380
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:33,210
that's 3.5 billion years old that could

1381
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:37,770
exist in other worlds it's it's not

1382
01:07:44,030 --> 01:07:41,490
oxygen based so we have the elements of

1383
01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:44,040
life and this was the net the National

1384
01:07:48,170 --> 01:07:45,720
Academy of Sciences that came out with

1385
01:07:51,590 --> 01:07:48,180
us it declared that life in the universe

1386
01:07:53,690 --> 01:07:51,600
must be abundant if we can have bacteria

1387
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:53,700
this bacteria is so tiny it's just

1388
01:08:01,550 --> 01:07:57,810
amazingly tiny but it's 350 billion

1389
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:01,560
years old at a time when nothing else

1390
01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:04,170
could live on Earth a completely hostile

1391
01:08:10,430 --> 01:08:08,790
environment and so they spoke as they're

1392
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:10,440
concluding statement in this article

1393
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:13,710
that this must mean that life is

1394
01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:17,810
abundant in the universe okay because

1395
01:08:23,180 --> 01:08:21,150
this elemental life comes the evolution

1396
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:23,190
of all life do you have that number

1397
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:26,130
right though the universe let me jump in

1398
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:28,380
Marshall the the three hundred and fifty

1399
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:31,190
billion years old the universe is

1400
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:34,310
fourteen and a half billion years old

1401
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:38,250
mm-hmm so having a bacteria that's three

1402
01:08:42,350 --> 01:08:40,440
maybe maybe the numbers wrong but still

1403
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:42,360
that's an extraordinary thing to find

1404
01:08:50,780 --> 01:08:46,530
because just recently also two weeks ago

1405
01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:50,790
they found bacteria growing on the

1406
01:08:57,260 --> 01:08:53,640
outside of the International space

1407
01:08:58,730 --> 01:08:57,270
station how many sisters yeah how did it

1408
01:09:01,130 --> 01:08:58,740
get and you know what this is the other

1409
01:09:03,410 --> 01:09:01,140
crazy I don't it get there right exactly

1410
01:09:06,170 --> 01:09:03,420
and they brought it we don't even

1411
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:06,180
realize we're living in a bio zone that

1412
01:09:11,570 --> 01:09:09,810
is so immense that it can it's totally

1413
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:11,580
confounding to our understanding and so

1414
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:14,970
I think the significance here though is

1415
01:09:18,770 --> 01:09:17,310
that life was existing in conditions

1416
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:18,780
that we never thought a life could exist

1417
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:19,890
in that's right

1418
01:09:27,380 --> 01:09:24,150
and so the age is significant within our

1419
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:27,390
worlds the context of our worlds assumed

1420
01:09:32,330 --> 01:09:30,810
history certainly the new message says

1421
01:09:35,420 --> 01:09:32,340
the space travel is happening before

1422
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:35,430
humanity even existed of course and that

1423
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:38,730
that is in itself see every every step a

1424
01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:40,710
person takes in this direction is

1425
01:09:46,330 --> 01:09:43,710
mind-blowing it's it's takes them

1426
01:09:48,860 --> 01:09:46,340
outside their normal range of awareness

1427
01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:48,870
their normal range of understanding and

1428
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:50,520
many people just don't have the courage

1429
01:09:56,060 --> 01:09:53,610
to go there but for those who do it

1430
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,070
becomes very rich but also very

1431
01:10:02,480 --> 01:09:58,320
confounding because the answers are not

1432
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:02,490
immediate you know you you have to live

1433
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:04,650
with this and I know you know must know

1434
01:10:09,710 --> 01:10:06,480
what I'm saying here you have to live

1435
01:10:11,690 --> 01:10:09,720
with these unanswered questions and if

1436
01:10:13,490 --> 01:10:11,700
you'll do that it will take you

1437
01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:13,500
somewhere you could not go before I

1438
01:10:19,250 --> 01:10:16,260
wanted to ask you this and certainly

1439
01:10:24,740 --> 01:10:19,260
with the new message as well when we

1440
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,750
look back to 2000 years ago let's let's

1441
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:26,640
you know a nice round number let's go to

1442
01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:33,480
zero and the the text and the dogma if

1443
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:37,860
you will from back then was that all of

1444
01:10:43,730 --> 01:10:41,520
the knowledge everything came from up

1445
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:43,740
there right God came from up there

1446
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:45,570
angels are coming down from up there we

1447
01:10:50,780 --> 01:10:47,400
have we have information we have that

1448
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:50,790
you know God said right God said do this

1449
01:11:00,440 --> 01:10:53,850
God said do not do could all of that

1450
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:00,450
have been of an ET origin and and and

1451
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:03,120
and if we interpreted all of that

1452
01:11:06,970 --> 01:11:05,970
certainly it would make everything make

1453
01:11:10,420 --> 01:11:06,980
sense

1454
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:10,430
pretty easily mm-hmm well the new

1455
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:12,650
message says we only had very limited

1456
01:11:18,820 --> 01:11:14,330
visitations in the world in ancient

1457
01:11:23,260 --> 01:11:18,830
times because and for very specific

1458
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:23,270
purposes one of the limiting factors was

1459
01:11:28,150 --> 01:11:26,090
the biological hazard of our world that

1460
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:28,160
races who live in sterile environments

1461
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:31,430
could not tolerate when you think of the

1462
01:11:34,990 --> 01:11:33,290
number of biological agents that exist

1463
01:11:37,229 --> 01:11:35,000
in our world which exceeds any number

1464
01:11:40,150 --> 01:11:37,239
that we can give to it

1465
01:11:41,860 --> 01:11:40,160
this is a very big factor by the way in

1466
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:41,870
how the new message describes the

1467
01:11:47,410 --> 01:11:43,030
interaction of worlds in the universe

1468
01:11:49,870 --> 01:11:47,420
the problem of contamination is huge its

1469
01:11:53,530 --> 01:11:49,880
immense and that we never should never

1470
01:11:55,979 --> 01:11:53,540
think that this is is something that

1471
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:55,989
technology alone can completely overcome

1472
01:12:00,580 --> 01:11:58,250
but I want to make it very I want to

1473
01:12:01,930 --> 01:12:00,590
emphasize in my view aliens are not the

1474
01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:01,940
source of religion in our world that

1475
01:12:07,180 --> 01:12:05,510
comes from a higher power we should be

1476
01:12:11,020 --> 01:12:07,190
very careful here this is one of the

1477
01:12:13,570 --> 01:12:11,030
problems of level confusion is assuming

1478
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:13,580
that everything operates together on one

1479
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:17,650
plane and through a natural association

1480
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,480
the heavenly reality is completely

1481
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:22,400
different than the physical reality how

1482
01:12:27,490 --> 01:12:25,040
so so messages that have come to us that

1483
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:27,500
have been the source are the stimulus

1484
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:29,210
for the great traditions and for all

1485
01:12:34,990 --> 01:12:32,000
other kinds of religious developments

1486
01:12:39,930 --> 01:12:35,000
and evolution is really coming from a

1487
01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:39,940
place far beyond the physical plane the

1488
01:12:48,370 --> 01:12:44,390
I want to say how so though because if

1489
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:48,380
if everything is understanding right I'm

1490
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:50,090
talking about not only us but everything

1491
01:12:57,220 --> 01:12:52,810
else that is out there and we all get it

1492
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:57,230
then why would there be an imbalance why

1493
01:13:01,330 --> 01:12:58,970
don't we have the same information as

1494
01:13:04,180 --> 01:13:01,340
the rest of the universe why are we held

1495
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:04,190
back and I constantly asking these very

1496
01:13:09,729 --> 01:13:07,310
important questions well it's

1497
01:13:11,860 --> 01:13:09,739
interesting you say that because as

1498
01:13:14,020 --> 01:13:11,870
above so below what is holding us back

1499
01:13:19,780 --> 01:13:14,030
is what holds all races in the universe

1500
01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:19,790
back conflicts

1501
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:24,450
evolution adaptation survival

1502
01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:29,010
competition we were living physical

1503
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:31,560
universe is a difficult place to live in

1504
01:13:36,650 --> 01:13:34,920
and gaining advanced technology doesn't

1505
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:36,660
make it easier in fact you can make it

1506
01:13:40,540 --> 01:13:38,310
far more difficult it makes it easier in

1507
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:40,550
some ways it solved some basic survival

1508
01:13:45,290 --> 01:13:44,070
problems but it also sets up other kinds

1509
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:45,300
of problems that could be far more

1510
01:13:48,620 --> 01:13:46,860
difficult to deal with and we're seeing

1511
01:13:49,460 --> 01:13:48,630
that in the world today we don't we

1512
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:49,470
don't know how to deal with our own

1513
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:51,450
pollution we don't know how to stop

1514
01:13:57,170 --> 01:13:53,730
contaminating the world even though we

1515
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,180
we all benefit from the advantages in

1516
01:14:01,460 --> 01:13:59,280
science and technology that we

1517
01:14:03,260 --> 01:14:01,470
experience every day but our

1518
01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:03,270
understanding is something that has

1519
01:14:11,210 --> 01:14:09,000
levels and religion in a pure sense has

1520
01:14:13,460 --> 01:14:11,220
to do with knowledge in my view has to

1521
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:13,470
do with knowledge that exists deep

1522
01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:16,320
within sentient beings what do I mean by

1523
01:14:21,260 --> 01:14:18,780
sentient being essentially it being is

1524
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:21,270
someone who has an understanding of the

1525
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:23,280
future in the past and a reference point

1526
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,450
beyond the physical to be distinguished

1527
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:29,760
from just a very very clever intelligent

1528
01:14:34,940 --> 01:14:32,970
animal we are referenced beyond the

1529
01:14:37,729 --> 01:14:34,950
physical plane and this deeper knowledge

1530
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:37,739
that I hope we have time to talk to as

1531
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:41,820
we go along is our connection to life

1532
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:45,930
beyond the physical plane that exists in

1533
01:14:52,130 --> 01:14:48,690
all sentient life as a potential but not

1534
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,140
as a reality I mean look at look at her

1535
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:53,760
own world how many people aren't

1536
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:55,290
actively engaged with this deeper

1537
01:14:59,000 --> 01:14:56,640
intelligence that lives within them

1538
01:15:01,850 --> 01:14:59,010
which holds the promise of who they are

1539
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:01,860
what they need to do in life it's the

1540
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:04,290
god connection because there's a lot of

1541
01:15:10,190 --> 01:15:06,890
believers in religion there's a lot of

1542
01:15:13,390 --> 01:15:10,200
pundits of religion but who is really

1543
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:13,400
having the core experience you know so

1544
01:15:20,540 --> 01:15:17,370
the potential for this is there for

1545
01:15:23,390 --> 01:15:20,550
everyone even across the universe but

1546
01:15:27,459 --> 01:15:23,400
the manifestation of it seems to be very

1547
01:15:30,140 --> 01:15:27,469
rare as it is in our own world why do we

1548
01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:30,150
okay I've got two statements here first

1549
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:31,780
our questions one why do we

1550
01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:34,090
still build guns why do we still kill

1551
01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:36,790
each other does ET kill each other right

1552
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:38,950
okay so we're gonna address that in a

1553
01:15:45,890 --> 01:15:42,610
second but the the other point that I

1554
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:45,900
that I think we're at here that we're

1555
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:49,360
we're so frustrated with being alone

1556
01:15:54,450 --> 01:15:52,210
with ourselves on this planet it's just

1557
01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:54,460
like Marshall if you and I were locked

1558
01:15:59,400 --> 01:15:56,950
in a room for thirty years and then

1559
01:16:02,790 --> 01:15:59,410
right one of us is gonna die one of us

1560
01:16:05,850 --> 01:16:02,800
is gonna kill no matter how how friendly

1561
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:05,860
we started out right yes and that's

1562
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:08,650
where we are on this planet and probably

1563
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:11,350
one of the things that would end a lot

1564
01:16:17,190 --> 01:16:14,650
of frustration that is built up is that

1565
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:17,200
if we got off this this this thing you

1566
01:16:22,710 --> 01:16:20,050
know and and had a common goal and and

1567
01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:22,720
and and just you know blew this popsicle

1568
01:16:26,580 --> 01:16:23,260
stand

1569
01:16:29,790 --> 01:16:26,590
and we would probably stop building

1570
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:29,800
those guns so let's go back to let's

1571
01:16:32,970 --> 01:16:31,330
let's address all of these important

1572
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:32,980
issues why do we still build guns why do

1573
01:16:39,180 --> 01:16:35,920
we still kill each other and is et doing

1574
01:16:40,890 --> 01:16:39,190
the same thing well the answer the first

1575
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:40,900
question it's it's how we've always

1576
01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:45,850
survived competition go back to the

1577
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:48,820
competition problem the tribe boy in the

1578
01:16:52,650 --> 01:16:50,290
next Valley over has a much better

1579
01:16:54,690 --> 01:16:52,660
hunting grounds we have very poor

1580
01:16:56,670 --> 01:16:54,700
hunting grounds there's going to be

1581
01:16:58,650 --> 01:16:56,680
competition for those resources I mean

1582
01:17:00,810 --> 01:16:58,660
this is how humanity through the ages

1583
01:17:03,180 --> 01:17:00,820
from primitive a very prolonged

1584
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:03,190
primitive state even up to the present

1585
01:17:09,330 --> 01:17:06,670
time has tried to survive we almost

1586
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:09,340
don't know a better way even though

1587
01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:11,920
there is a better way Jesus spoke of the

1588
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:13,420
better way Buddha spoke of the better

1589
01:17:18,810 --> 01:17:16,210
way I mean the better way is not

1590
01:17:23,130 --> 01:17:18,820
something that hasn't existed it's just

1591
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:23,140
that we keep relying upon a very low

1592
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:26,230
part of our intelligence to be able to

1593
01:17:30,900 --> 01:17:28,810
determine what we have to do we still

1594
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:30,910
think that violence and destruction

1595
01:17:35,850 --> 01:17:33,610
really works but even in a current world

1596
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:35,860
a world of declining resources now

1597
01:17:42,650 --> 01:17:39,040
I mean destroying a city means is never

1598
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:42,660
going to get rebuild see

1599
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:45,210
can't destroy like we did so wantonly

1600
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:48,210
before because the Duras is not going to

1601
01:17:52,430 --> 01:17:49,890
provide the resources that can make that

1602
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:52,440
really possible the wealth is declining

1603
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:55,110
in our world the wealth is declining so

1604
01:18:01,940 --> 01:17:58,560
we're entering even as we begin to face

1605
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:01,950
this larger panorama of life on our own

1606
01:18:07,310 --> 01:18:05,250
planet we are hitting the limits that

1607
01:18:09,530 --> 01:18:07,320
are going to require us to function

1608
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:09,540
differently or we will destroy ourselves

1609
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:11,490
and one of the great challenges in

1610
01:18:15,650 --> 01:18:13,050
wanting to get risks I think we're

1611
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:15,660
facing right now living in a declining

1612
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:18,510
world a growing population in the world

1613
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:20,730
shrink drinking from a slowly shrinking

1614
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:23,910
well is that we will fight endlessly

1615
01:18:29,630 --> 01:18:25,470
over who has access to the remaining

1616
01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:29,640
resources this is a this is a threat of

1617
01:18:33,260 --> 01:18:31,590
warfare and a level never even seen

1618
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:33,270
before in this world and this is a real

1619
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:36,060
risk I don't want to downplay this we

1620
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,040
are we are at a time of great risk and

1621
01:18:44,770 --> 01:18:41,360
opportunity ok and the opportunity is

1622
01:18:48,980 --> 01:18:44,780
really important but so are the risks

1623
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:48,990
this is why I feel that if we can

1624
01:18:52,940 --> 01:18:51,450
recognize and prepare for our encounter

1625
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:52,950
of life in the universe which is our

1626
01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:56,490
destiny it is our destiny this is our

1627
01:18:59,420 --> 01:18:59,010
time it was always going to meant to

1628
01:19:01,690 --> 01:18:59,430
happen

1629
01:19:05,570 --> 01:19:01,700
could have been foreseen even long ago

1630
01:19:08,150 --> 01:19:05,580
now we are there if this can happen it's

1631
01:19:10,990 --> 01:19:08,160
the only thing that can bring an end to

1632
01:19:14,150 --> 01:19:11,000
human conflict even religious conflict

1633
01:19:17,150 --> 01:19:14,160
because we now become humans in this

1634
01:19:20,420 --> 01:19:17,160
world being challenged by other races

1635
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:20,430
for dominance in our world I can't think

1636
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:23,520
of anything else that holds a greater

1637
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:26,090
promise for uniting the human family and

1638
01:19:31,940 --> 01:19:29,040
preventing us from going that down that

1639
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:31,950
dreadful path of gradual

1640
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:33,780
self-destruction fighting over the

1641
01:19:38,060 --> 01:19:36,420
remaining resources of the world I can't

1642
01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:38,070
think of anything else that could make

1643
01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:43,350
that happen disease we're never going to

1644
01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:45,300
agree politically we're never going to

1645
01:19:49,820 --> 01:19:47,580
agree about the best economic or

1646
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:49,830
political system we're never going to

1647
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:53,370
agree about music or anything else but

1648
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:55,710
if we are all in the same boat facing

1649
01:20:01,300 --> 01:19:56,510
these

1650
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:01,310
challenge that could over time not

1651
01:20:06,670 --> 01:20:03,770
immediately over time begin to turn the

1652
01:20:11,410 --> 01:20:06,680
tide away from self-destruction do we

1653
01:20:14,170 --> 01:20:11,420
have a reason to fear ET absolutely how

1654
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:14,180
so does does the Native Americans of 300

1655
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:15,920
years ago have a reason to fear the Tall

1656
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:17,690
Ships that just came over the horizon I

1657
01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:24,290
can answer that but so we are now we are

1658
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:26,140
now the native peoples of the world

1659
01:20:33,580 --> 01:20:29,450
facing intervention from races we do not

1660
01:20:36,670 --> 01:20:33,590
understand we are reliving what has

1661
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:36,680
happened in the world countless times we

1662
01:20:41,020 --> 01:20:38,690
have to take that position as a starting

1663
01:20:44,140 --> 01:20:41,030
point our we are not using our native

1664
01:20:45,970 --> 01:20:44,150
intelligence correctly this is what

1665
01:20:48,190 --> 01:20:45,980
history has taught us this is what life

1666
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:48,200
has taught us this is what nature has

1667
01:20:53,530 --> 01:20:51,530
taught us no race is coming here to help

1668
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:53,540
us they are coming here for their own

1669
01:20:58,690 --> 01:20:56,480
purposes any race that seeks to

1670
01:21:00,340 --> 01:20:58,700
interfere with human affairs is doing

1671
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:00,350
this for their own reasons and own

1672
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:01,130
purpose

1673
01:21:09,070 --> 01:21:06,170
I like this intervention has taught us

1674
01:21:12,190 --> 01:21:09,080
we have to we have to begin to consider

1675
01:21:14,140 --> 01:21:12,200
this I have often said Marshall that I

1676
01:21:17,770 --> 01:21:14,150
walk around with flowers hanging out of

1677
01:21:20,410 --> 01:21:17,780
my pockets right I just want everything

1678
01:21:22,930 --> 01:21:20,420
to take the right path all right that's

1679
01:21:27,580 --> 01:21:22,940
the way I live my life and I would

1680
01:21:29,620 --> 01:21:27,590
assume that et has gone through the BS

1681
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:29,630
that we have gone through on this planet

1682
01:21:36,910 --> 01:21:32,510
and has evolved to the point where they

1683
01:21:41,260 --> 01:21:36,920
they are a kinder gentler you know

1684
01:21:43,090 --> 01:21:41,270
raising pigs but then the other point

1685
01:21:44,830 --> 01:21:43,100
that that makes me feel good about

1686
01:21:48,220 --> 01:21:44,840
having that that frame of mind that

1687
01:21:50,170 --> 01:21:48,230
mindset is that if they really wanted

1688
01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:50,180
this planet they could have come and

1689
01:21:55,390 --> 01:21:53,150
taken it and they haven't yeah but see I

1690
01:21:56,740 --> 01:21:55,400
hear this argument a lot and I want to

1691
01:22:02,410 --> 01:21:56,750
respond to that because I think it's a

1692
01:22:04,030 --> 01:22:02,420
it's a very reasonable argument they

1693
01:22:06,220 --> 01:22:04,040
don't want to take the planet by force

1694
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:06,230
because they would destroy the

1695
01:22:10,250 --> 01:22:08,030
environmental value of the planet and

1696
01:22:12,049 --> 01:22:10,260
they need us as a work for

1697
01:22:14,540 --> 01:22:12,059
it cannot breathe our atmosphere they

1698
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:14,550
cannot live here the biological hazard

1699
01:22:18,349 --> 01:22:16,050
is too great and they just can't they

1700
01:22:20,869 --> 01:22:18,359
can't breathe our atmosphere so they

1701
01:22:25,729 --> 01:22:20,879
need us this is why the attempt to

1702
01:22:27,949 --> 01:22:25,739
persuade and generate human acquiescence

1703
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:27,959
is so powerful in the work of the

1704
01:22:32,119 --> 01:22:29,570
intervention in the world today

1705
01:22:34,609 --> 01:22:32,129
it's the resource of the world we want

1706
01:22:37,009 --> 01:22:34,619
and we are part of that resource we're

1707
01:22:39,379 --> 01:22:37,019
the labor if you think of the

1708
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:39,389
interventions in the past the colonial

1709
01:22:43,339 --> 01:22:41,489
powers intervening in native races they

1710
01:22:44,679 --> 01:22:43,349
needed the people of those races to work

1711
01:22:48,589 --> 01:22:44,689
for them that's right

1712
01:22:50,029 --> 01:22:48,599
okay they they wanted one of the first

1713
01:22:52,699 --> 01:22:50,039
things that they wanted to do was

1714
01:22:54,919 --> 01:22:52,709
displace their leaders belief in their

1715
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:54,929
own leaders the the native races belief

1716
01:23:00,109 --> 01:22:57,449
in their own leaders and their own

1717
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:00,119
religion the two powers of authority in

1718
01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:03,449
the lives of native peoples the oncoming

1719
01:23:11,659 --> 01:23:07,800
Colonials wanted to wanted to remove

1720
01:23:13,459 --> 01:23:11,669
that and shift it to themselves this is

1721
01:23:16,369 --> 01:23:13,469
exactly what the intervention is doing

1722
01:23:19,369 --> 01:23:16,379
in religious terms in the world today by

1723
01:23:23,379 --> 01:23:19,379
confusing extraterrestrials of angels by

1724
01:23:25,609 --> 01:23:23,389
tuning into or speaking to our religious

1725
01:23:27,409 --> 01:23:25,619
unquestioned religious beliefs that

1726
01:23:30,739 --> 01:23:27,419
anything that happens to us must be an

1727
01:23:33,799 --> 01:23:30,749
act of God must be something that is

1728
01:23:35,839 --> 01:23:33,809
meant to happen it's here for our good

1729
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:35,849
we need to be positive we need to be

1730
01:23:42,609 --> 01:23:38,639
accepting look what happened to the

1731
01:23:46,699 --> 01:23:42,619
native peoples who were accepting okay I

1732
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:46,709
mean as a religious man it's tough for

1733
01:23:53,029 --> 01:23:49,530
me to be this hardcore but I think

1734
01:23:54,529 --> 01:23:53,039
living in the real world and seeing what

1735
01:23:55,969 --> 01:23:54,539
history has taught us and what has

1736
01:23:59,119 --> 01:23:55,979
happened to the native peoples of the

1737
01:24:01,489 --> 01:23:59,129
world I have to take this position

1738
01:24:04,939 --> 01:24:01,499
because if we don't take this position

1739
01:24:07,969 --> 01:24:04,949
if we make a mistake here we're done

1740
01:24:09,409 --> 01:24:07,979
that's it do you can forget it human

1741
01:24:11,659 --> 01:24:09,419
corruption you can forget about

1742
01:24:15,619 --> 01:24:11,669
conspiracy theories or you can forget

1743
01:24:18,259 --> 01:24:15,629
about the the corrupt and corruption of

1744
01:24:21,739 --> 01:24:18,269
Malthusian some government we are facing

1745
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:21,749
the one thing that can overcome us and

1746
01:24:28,450 --> 01:24:24,190
it can do it without the use of force

1747
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,460
do you think that there is those on this

1748
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:30,880
planet that would sell us out like that

1749
01:24:36,820 --> 01:24:34,850
absolutely I mean most politicians are

1750
01:24:39,490 --> 01:24:36,830
opportunists right this is why the deep

1751
01:24:42,910 --> 01:24:39,500
government never doesn't anything to do

1752
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:42,920
with them they'll go for the opportunity

1753
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:44,810
oh this is an opportunity and of course

1754
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:47,120
the intervention persuades people on the

1755
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:49,250
basis of I'll give you power

1756
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:51,110
I'll give you technology I'll give you

1757
01:24:53,890 --> 01:24:52,400
spiritual fulfillment we'll give you

1758
01:24:56,260 --> 01:24:53,900
whatever you think you want and can't

1759
01:25:01,600 --> 01:24:56,270
have we'll give it to you we have it we

1760
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:01,610
have no war I mean think about this this

1761
01:25:07,810 --> 01:25:05,330
is weird to such easy game when we make

1762
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:07,820
these kinds of assumptions and we do it

1763
01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:10,370
because we feel better about it we feel

1764
01:25:15,370 --> 01:25:12,670
good about it

1765
01:25:17,980 --> 01:25:15,380
well no to think that we are facing

1766
01:25:20,350 --> 01:25:17,990
other races who are like us not they

1767
01:25:22,180 --> 01:25:20,360
don't look like us but are motivated by

1768
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:22,190
the same things that motivate us but are

1769
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:24,800
more powerful than we are that terrifies

1770
01:25:31,630 --> 01:25:29,210
people I look back to and I run a piece

1771
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:31,640
of it in the intro of our show I look

1772
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:34,400
back to Ronald Reagan's famous run of

1773
01:25:39,790 --> 01:25:36,770
speeches that he adds that's right and

1774
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:39,800
he spoke about exactly this no we're

1775
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:41,210
gonna head to no we're gonna head

1776
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:42,650
towards a break here in three minutes so

1777
01:25:45,130 --> 01:25:43,970
I'll give you a chance to respond and

1778
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:45,140
then we'll pick it up on the back side

1779
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:49,130
but okay did he know something oh I'm

1780
01:25:56,860 --> 01:25:54,170
sure he did I'm sure he did do you know

1781
01:26:00,520 --> 01:25:56,870
yeah this is something that is so

1782
01:26:04,510 --> 01:26:00,530
important that we cannot make a mistake

1783
01:26:06,970 --> 01:26:04,520
I think that if we look at history if we

1784
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:06,980
look at nature if we look at what it

1785
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:09,290
would be like to have an intruder in

1786
01:26:15,700 --> 01:26:12,170
your home who comes and goes that will

1787
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:15,710
takes whatever they want changes your

1788
01:26:22,330 --> 01:26:18,770
work you're their abode your home even

1789
01:26:26,020 --> 01:26:22,340
begins to change you without explanation

1790
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:26,030
without invitation and you can only hope

1791
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:29,090
they're there for a good purpose now I

1792
01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:31,730
think most people would want to reclaim

1793
01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:34,190
their own space and get that intruder

1794
01:26:38,859 --> 01:26:36,800
out of their house

1795
01:26:41,979 --> 01:26:38,869
we have an intruder in our house doing

1796
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:41,989
all the things I just mentioned you know

1797
01:26:47,109 --> 01:26:44,570
their behavior is what gives it away is

1798
01:26:49,049 --> 01:26:47,119
not that I'm a fear mongering negative

1799
01:26:52,330 --> 01:26:49,059
person like I've been accused of often

1800
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:52,340
it is their behavior that gives them

1801
01:27:01,120 --> 01:26:57,730
away regardless of what they promise

1802
01:27:06,549 --> 01:27:01,130
what we want them to be we want to feel

1803
01:27:07,870 --> 01:27:06,559
good about this I think that if we're

1804
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:07,880
being really honest this is scary as

1805
01:27:14,620 --> 01:27:11,090
hell right we've got we got a real

1806
01:27:16,209 --> 01:27:14,630
problem and this is not so much about

1807
01:27:17,799 --> 01:27:16,219
government I mean governments its own

1808
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:17,809
problem but this is a much bigger

1809
01:27:22,030 --> 01:27:20,570
problem the races in the world today

1810
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:22,040
have much greater powers of persuasion

1811
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:26,239
than our elected officials do the rely

1812
01:27:32,290 --> 01:27:28,159
upon this is their power

1813
01:27:35,979 --> 01:27:32,300
it is not weapons we have to get out of

1814
01:27:38,530 --> 01:27:35,989
this weapon oriented mentality that how

1815
01:27:40,510 --> 01:27:38,540
that's what makes things work in the

1816
01:27:44,049 --> 01:27:40,520
universe they've had to outgrow this to

1817
01:27:46,359 --> 01:27:44,059
survive we've got to take a break we

1818
01:27:48,189 --> 01:27:46,369
reverse as it's been revealed in the new

1819
01:27:51,129 --> 01:27:48,199
message life is like in our local

1820
01:27:54,189 --> 01:27:51,139
universe war has been suppressed we've

1821
01:27:57,939 --> 01:27:54,199
gotta take a break great we gotta take a

1822
01:28:01,180 --> 01:27:57,949
break right here so let's go ahead and

1823
01:28:03,879 --> 01:28:01,190
do that but also what is telling with

1824
01:28:06,819 --> 01:28:03,889
that statement right there was the

1825
01:28:08,770 --> 01:28:06,829
pilots were asked what kind of weapons

1826
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:08,780
they had on their planes right obviously

1827
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:10,730
somebody wanted somebody to shoot

1828
01:28:14,799 --> 01:28:13,010
somebody down and it turned out they

1829
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,809
couldn't even do that if they wanted to

1830
01:28:18,220 --> 01:28:16,159
and that's what was brought out in that

1831
01:28:19,569 --> 01:28:18,230
video they were defenseless all right

1832
01:28:21,850 --> 01:28:19,579
this is fade to black our guest tonight

1833
01:28:23,340 --> 01:28:21,860
Marshall Summers more of Marshall right

1834
01:28:32,859 --> 01:28:23,350
after this short break stay with us

1835
01:28:39,310 --> 01:28:36,040
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01:28:41,569 --> 01:28:39,320
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Marshall continuing on with our

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conversation

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is there even a possibility of any

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positive interaction with et you know

1913
01:33:03,750 --> 01:32:58,510
what happened to love and light and all

1914
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:03,760
of that stuff well it's interesting that

1915
01:33:11,850 --> 01:33:08,890
I think that the thing that we have to

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01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:11,860
be very careful of here if we're going

1917
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to be able to see this clearly if we're

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going to have the eyes to see in the

1919
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ears to hear that our innate within us

1920
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we have that ability is we can't want

1921
01:33:28,020 --> 01:33:25,090
anything from this we can't want power

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01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:28,030
we can't want technology we can't want

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01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:30,310
resolution to our problems we can't

1924
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:33,040
watch spiritual fulfillment we can't

1925
01:33:40,620 --> 01:33:36,040
want to have our our ideology confirmed

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01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:40,630
our religious belief confirmed if we can

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01:33:44,430 --> 01:33:42,310
do that and that's not an easy thing to

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01:33:47,670 --> 01:33:44,440
do for people I mean I will be the first

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01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:47,680
to say that then we have a chance to

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01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:50,800
really see you know after 70 years of

1931
01:33:58,890 --> 01:33:54,970
being aware of craft in our skies let me

1932
01:34:03,500 --> 01:33:58,900
say beginning in 1947 mmm-hmm can we

1933
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:03,510
step back and see this for what it is

1934
01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:06,070
because there are four fundamental

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01:34:10,980 --> 01:34:08,680
questions that we have to bring to the

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01:34:14,970 --> 01:34:10,990
table here the first is what is

1937
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:14,980
happening a seventy years of very noble

1938
01:34:21,900 --> 01:34:19,600
UFO research has answered that question

1939
01:34:25,290 --> 01:34:21,910
admirably we have enough pieces of this

1940
01:34:28,410 --> 01:34:25,300
puzzle to see what it's telling us the

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01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:31,890
is it happening next question what does

1942
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:37,330
it mean fourth question what do we do we

1943
01:34:42,060 --> 01:34:39,760
have to go on beyond the first question

1944
01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:42,070
if we keep walking around the first

1945
01:34:46,050 --> 01:34:44,350
question endlessly there's always more

1946
01:34:48,959 --> 01:34:46,060
scraps of evidence there's always

1947
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:48,969
interesting things there but we have to

1948
01:34:56,459 --> 01:34:53,890
go on to all four questions and I've

1949
01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:56,469
spoken in many different symposia I've

1950
01:35:01,500 --> 01:34:58,239
been in the audience of many different

1951
01:35:04,530 --> 01:35:01,510
symposia around this subject and I see

1952
01:35:06,630 --> 01:35:04,540
the emphasis on the first question but I

1953
01:35:09,090 --> 01:35:06,640
feel that with each passing day with

1954
01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:09,100
each passing year we are becoming weaker

1955
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:12,310
as a race we are being weakened we were

1956
01:35:16,110 --> 01:35:14,170
already weak to begin with in many ways

1957
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:16,120
but we are being weakened by the

1958
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:17,560
presence of those who are in our world

1959
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:20,710
you know the allies of humanity

1960
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:22,719
briefings which was given to me much

1961
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:26,130
later in my work given to me as a gift

1962
01:35:32,939 --> 01:35:30,070
from the from the divine basically as

1963
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:32,949
witnesses as physical beings living in

1964
01:35:38,580 --> 01:35:34,210
our local universe who actually

1965
01:35:40,130 --> 01:35:38,590
represent free races they said no one

1966
01:35:44,490 --> 01:35:40,140
should be visiting your world this time

1967
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:44,500
you are not ready for contact you don't

1968
01:35:51,570 --> 01:35:48,489
have the species maturity you don't have

1969
01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:51,580
the unity you have no one to represent

1970
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:54,310
all the people of the world you are not

1971
01:36:01,290 --> 01:35:57,370
ready for contact no one should be here

1972
01:36:06,930 --> 01:36:01,300
at this time but yet they are yet they

1973
01:36:10,620 --> 01:36:06,940
are with with the dynamics of this past

1974
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:10,630
Saturday which I can no longer say

1975
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:13,390
apparently show something it does show

1976
01:36:21,870 --> 01:36:17,770
something we whether we're ready or not

1977
01:36:24,209 --> 01:36:21,880
that question has been answered you know

1978
01:36:27,060 --> 01:36:24,219
well that's right yeah we know they're

1979
01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:27,070
here but now we need to take it further

1980
01:36:32,729 --> 01:36:30,520
and you can't do that if you're trying

1981
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:32,739
to validate your own beliefs right I

1982
01:36:37,169 --> 01:36:35,050
didn't have any beliefs about you

1983
01:36:39,150 --> 01:36:37,179
followed you when I started I just could

1984
01:36:41,610 --> 01:36:39,160
say sure we've we can't be the only race

1985
01:36:43,950 --> 01:36:41,620
in the universe sure there must be even

1986
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:43,960
all kinds of races out there but I

1987
01:36:48,410 --> 01:36:45,970
didn't have any view I didn't have any

1988
01:36:52,770 --> 01:36:48,420
set opinions I didn't have any

1989
01:36:57,330 --> 01:36:52,780
professional investment I came to this

1990
01:37:00,210 --> 01:36:57,340
like show me I don't know but when I

1991
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,220
began to to respond to the revelation

1992
01:37:06,930 --> 01:37:02,800
and begin to read what people were

1993
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:06,940
experiencing the sightings later on the

1994
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:10,090
abductions boy I tell you I got a bad

1995
01:37:15,330 --> 01:37:11,290
feeling from this in the very beginning

1996
01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:15,340
I said no friend would do this now I

1997
01:37:18,270 --> 01:37:16,780
want to back up a little bit for your

1998
01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:18,280
other question because I think there

1999
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:20,080
were positive forces here after World

2000
01:37:24,690 --> 01:37:23,170
War 2 for a time and the contactee

2001
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:24,700
experiences they had in places like

2002
01:37:29,130 --> 01:37:27,760
giant rock were part of that phenomenon

2003
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:29,140
but something else has come these

2004
01:37:35,730 --> 01:37:32,260
displaced all of that and you know the

2005
01:37:38,940 --> 01:37:35,740
important thing I think here is any

2006
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:38,950
friend of a mayor of humanity excuse me

2007
01:37:44,150 --> 01:37:41,530
any friend of humanity would know that

2008
01:37:46,860 --> 01:37:44,160
we cannot tell friend from foe

2009
01:37:49,710 --> 01:37:46,870
so they would certainly withdraw in the

2010
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:49,720
face of other forces who are here to

2011
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:53,170
take advantage of our situation this

2012
01:37:59,160 --> 01:37:56,880
creates an unambiguous environment

2013
01:38:00,420 --> 01:37:59,170
because many people say oh yeah they're

2014
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:00,430
probably bad Aditi's but they're also

2015
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:02,770
good ii there has to be good et's well

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01:38:08,490 --> 01:38:04,270
that's just because that's what they

2017
01:38:10,260 --> 01:38:08,500
want that's what they need but you know

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01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,270
we don't have the criteria to tell

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01:38:15,150 --> 01:38:12,880
friend from foe except in terms of the

2020
01:38:17,250 --> 01:38:15,160
behavior of those who are functioning in

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01:38:20,900 --> 01:38:17,260
the world today there as I said before

2022
01:38:23,310 --> 01:38:20,910
they behavior in my mind says it all

2023
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:23,320
there are many details we don't know

2024
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:25,360
many details we don't understand but

2025
01:38:30,060 --> 01:38:27,730
basically we have an intruder in our

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01:38:32,660 --> 01:38:30,070
house who's operating without our

2027
01:38:35,790 --> 01:38:32,670
permission going against our will and

2028
01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:35,800
I've had enough experience with

2029
01:38:41,250 --> 01:38:39,310
contactees at least those who have gone

2030
01:38:42,570 --> 01:38:41,260
through the scary part of recognizing

2031
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:42,580
that there kind of that there are

2032
01:38:49,980 --> 01:38:46,930
abductees their story is very very

2033
01:38:51,420 --> 01:38:49,990
telling very grim people have lost

2034
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:51,430
control of their lives to a certain

2035
01:38:55,169 --> 01:38:53,530
extent mm-hmm and they're at the behest

2036
01:38:57,300 --> 01:38:55,179
of other powers who come when they were

2037
01:38:58,979 --> 01:38:57,310
we'll take what they want and you do

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01:39:02,970 --> 01:38:58,989
whatever to these people that they want

2039
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:02,980
to do now that's that's like saying you

2040
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:05,679
know raping a woman is a good thing good

2041
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:09,330
for the woman or good for the earth

2042
01:39:14,430 --> 01:39:12,489
because there are real they're real

2043
01:39:18,899 --> 01:39:14,440
crimes against humanity happening in

2044
01:39:20,370 --> 01:39:18,909
this phenomenon so I know people want to

2045
01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:20,380
make this a good thing because they're

2046
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:22,630
not strong enough or willing enough to

2047
01:39:28,110 --> 01:39:26,650
face what this probably really is which

2048
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:28,120
is an intervention in our world from

2049
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:30,730
races who are here to gain dominance in

2050
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:33,600
our world they look at us as reckless

2051
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:39,489
chaotic destructive while we are and we

2052
01:39:48,890 --> 01:39:46,050
are right to come and displace us

2053
01:39:52,050 --> 01:39:48,900
Marshall let me jump in let me jump in

2054
01:39:54,810 --> 01:39:52,060
you you mentioned we wouldn't be able to

2055
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:54,820
recognize friend from foe we can't even

2056
01:39:59,550 --> 01:39:57,760
do that with our neighbors right we

2057
01:40:01,830 --> 01:39:59,560
can't even do that on our own planet so

2058
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:01,840
certainly looking out into the universe

2059
01:40:09,810 --> 01:40:06,489
but in that same respect is et there's

2060
01:40:12,419 --> 01:40:09,820
you know an infant amount of of ET races

2061
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:12,429
out there in our in our galaxy and in

2062
01:40:16,410 --> 01:40:14,650
the universe what are they doing with

2063
01:40:19,169 --> 01:40:16,420
themselves are they warring with

2064
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:19,179
themselves are they getting along have

2065
01:40:26,340 --> 01:40:22,110
they figured out a way to get past this

2066
01:40:28,649 --> 01:40:26,350
well I think the what's what's the

2067
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:28,659
message given to me is there's evolution

2068
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:30,250
at every stage out there there's

2069
01:40:34,979 --> 01:40:32,409
primitive races there's warring races as

2070
01:40:36,930 --> 01:40:34,989
races who've gone beyond the need for

2071
01:40:38,729 --> 01:40:36,940
war there are races who are not

2072
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:38,739
spiritual and that's apparently very

2073
01:40:43,530 --> 01:40:40,810
common there are races who are deeply

2074
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:43,540
spiritual but to be a free race in the

2075
01:40:52,050 --> 01:40:48,489
universe requires three things it

2076
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,060
requires unity it requires self

2077
01:40:57,930 --> 01:40:54,880
sufficiency and it requires great

2078
01:40:59,610 --> 01:40:57,940
discretion these are the requirements

2079
01:41:01,290 --> 01:40:59,620
for all races to need or this is the

2080
01:41:03,959 --> 01:41:01,300
revelation from the new message this is

2081
01:41:06,959 --> 01:41:03,969
not my idea I didn't think this up right

2082
01:41:08,930 --> 01:41:06,969
when you begin to think about this we

2083
01:41:12,180 --> 01:41:08,940
are breaking all those rules

2084
01:41:13,950 --> 01:41:12,190
we're hardly United and at the risk of

2085
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:13,960
becoming evermore fractured in fact I

2086
01:41:18,959 --> 01:41:16,570
see the fracturing of nations happening

2087
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:18,969
all over the world very very disturbing

2088
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:21,489
to me at a time when human unity is of

2089
01:41:27,419 --> 01:41:22,480
the utmost importance

2090
01:41:31,410 --> 01:41:27,429
knowing what I know we're destroying our

2091
01:41:33,780 --> 01:41:31,420
self-sufficiency about as fast as we can

2092
01:41:36,649 --> 01:41:33,790
which is going to have just immense

2093
01:41:38,729 --> 01:41:36,659
consequences for us here on earth and

2094
01:41:41,970 --> 01:41:38,739
we're hardly discrete we're broadcasting

2095
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:41,980
out into our local universe all of our

2096
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:44,530
conflicts all of our weaknesses all of

2097
01:41:50,250 --> 01:41:46,650
our indulgences

2098
01:41:52,140 --> 01:41:50,260
and and you know we're we appear to be

2099
01:41:56,399 --> 01:41:52,150
absolutely reckless and ridiculous

2100
01:41:58,439 --> 01:41:56,409
probably to many races but we also are

2101
01:42:01,830 --> 01:41:58,449
very vulnerable we're very persuadable

2102
01:42:03,180 --> 01:42:01,840
see this is this is a huge invitation

2103
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:03,190
it's almost like saying the universe

2104
01:42:11,459 --> 01:42:07,449
come and get us we just can't get our

2105
01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:11,469
act together down here but still there

2106
01:42:16,530 --> 01:42:14,820
are ethics to contact and we over time

2107
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:16,540
something like this is something I

2108
01:42:21,419 --> 01:42:18,489
emphasize I spoke at the beautiful

2109
01:42:23,820 --> 01:42:21,429
national conference back in 2006 and I

2110
01:42:26,850 --> 01:42:23,830
presented on the Bennett the ethics of

2111
01:42:30,630 --> 01:42:26,860
contact and the ethics of contact mean

2112
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,640
that we are a young race we're not more

2113
01:42:34,649 --> 01:42:32,560
sinful than other young races we're

2114
01:42:36,930 --> 01:42:34,659
making mistakes that all races probably

2115
01:42:40,050 --> 01:42:36,940
make to one degree or another we're not

2116
01:42:42,500 --> 01:42:40,060
the bad boys in the universe we're not a

2117
01:42:44,910 --> 01:42:42,510
threat to the universe I mean we're

2118
01:42:47,630 --> 01:42:44,920
we're pathetic but we're not a threat to

2119
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:47,640
the universe or to the worlds around us

2120
01:42:55,110 --> 01:42:51,250
but that we must establish on rules of

2121
01:42:58,500 --> 01:42:55,120
engagement and why you would say well

2122
01:43:01,800 --> 01:42:58,510
what difference is that gonna make the

2123
01:43:07,110 --> 01:43:01,810
new message tells us that the races who

2124
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:07,120
are here can only function if we agree

2125
01:43:11,070 --> 01:43:09,250
that they can be here because outright

2126
01:43:13,979 --> 01:43:11,080
conquest is not allowed in this part of

2127
01:43:17,850 --> 01:43:13,989
our galaxy we live in a highly developed

2128
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:17,860
part of the galaxy where large trading

2129
01:43:22,420 --> 01:43:20,290
nations and trading associations have

2130
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:22,430
replaced war in conflict

2131
01:43:26,710 --> 01:43:24,890
and outright conquest is not allowed so

2132
01:43:29,740 --> 01:43:26,720
for a race to intervene with a young

2133
01:43:31,630 --> 01:43:29,750
race like us it has to at least appear

2134
01:43:35,710 --> 01:43:31,640
to outside observers that that is

2135
01:43:38,260 --> 01:43:35,720
tolerated by us and this is why the

2136
01:43:40,780 --> 01:43:38,270
intervention seeks to gain our approval

2137
01:43:43,570 --> 01:43:40,790
our our quiescence whenever possible and

2138
01:43:48,180 --> 01:43:43,580
if we don't acquiesce then it tries

2139
01:43:51,970 --> 01:43:48,190
basically to discourage us or depress us

2140
01:43:56,020 --> 01:43:51,980
in other words you have no way to oppose

2141
01:43:58,180 --> 01:43:56,030
us so that's very depressing so when you

2142
01:44:03,460 --> 01:43:58,190
see these flyby reports of airline

2143
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:03,470
pilots and military pilots this is this

2144
01:44:09,190 --> 01:44:07,520
is a demonstration of power do you think

2145
01:44:14,170 --> 01:44:09,200
your crew you think you're good look at

2146
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:14,180
us you have no power against us when in

2147
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:16,130
fact there are very small groups of

2148
01:44:20,410 --> 01:44:18,290
individuals without military assets we

2149
01:44:22,660 --> 01:44:20,420
rule the whole world they can't breathe

2150
01:44:27,250 --> 01:44:22,670
our atmosphere and we have the power to

2151
01:44:31,390 --> 01:44:27,260
expel them and drive them out if we make

2152
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:31,400
that known if we speak out against their

2153
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:34,850
presence here now people are so used to

2154
01:44:41,050 --> 01:44:36,890
war in conflict as a way of resolving

2155
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:41,060
things that they don't see the

2156
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:44,090
opportunity here and we wouldn't see it

2157
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:46,730
ourselves if we didn't have this greater

2158
01:44:50,980 --> 01:44:49,250
perspective I didn't invent this

2159
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:50,990
perspective I didn't even know about

2160
01:44:54,940 --> 01:44:52,090
these things

2161
01:44:59,140 --> 01:44:54,950
so I know I just said a whole lot and

2162
01:45:01,780 --> 01:44:59,150
I'd like you to respond but well we're

2163
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:01,790
really dealing with something of great

2164
01:45:10,660 --> 01:45:06,050
importance here your knowledge of UFO

2165
01:45:15,850 --> 01:45:10,670
history is pretty impressive so I feel

2166
01:45:19,740 --> 01:45:15,860
that you do understand historically all

2167
01:45:22,270 --> 01:45:19,750
of the subjects but with that knowledge

2168
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:22,280
have you seen something in the sky that

2169
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:26,690
you can't explain yes I have tell me

2170
01:45:31,540 --> 01:45:29,360
about it and I saw it from a very kind

2171
01:45:34,900 --> 01:45:31,550
of famous locale which is the great sand

2172
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:34,910
dunes of Colorado where the first animal

2173
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:36,880
mutilation was reported

2174
01:45:45,729 --> 01:45:40,250
the first known util ition was reported

2175
01:45:49,870 --> 01:45:45,739
right yeah I saw a craft way up high

2176
01:45:51,010 --> 01:45:49,880
probably at 40,000 feet and I could see

2177
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:51,020
the Sun it was late in the day and the

2178
01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:53,110
Sun was shining off the bottom of it I

2179
01:45:58,300 --> 01:45:56,480
thought it was just a big airplane and

2180
01:46:02,200 --> 01:45:58,310
it went into a cloud never came out a

2181
01:46:03,790 --> 01:46:02,210
small cloud and I probably watched it

2182
01:46:06,490 --> 01:46:03,800
for a half an hour and nothing ever came

2183
01:46:08,890 --> 01:46:06,500
out I was a clear day otherwise it was

2184
01:46:11,490 --> 01:46:08,900
bright enough for me to see and I felt

2185
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:11,500
pretty strange about that mm-hmm

2186
01:46:16,210 --> 01:46:13,730
but I'm sure people are seeing these

2187
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:16,220
things all the time because one of the

2188
01:46:20,590 --> 01:46:18,290
weaknesses of the intervention is they

2189
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:20,600
don't they make very little effort to

2190
01:46:26,770 --> 01:46:22,880
hide themselves it's the problem is

2191
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:26,780
people just aren't looking people are

2192
01:46:31,090 --> 01:46:28,400
self-obsessed they're not looking up at

2193
01:46:33,010 --> 01:46:31,100
the sky you could have all kinds of

2194
01:46:34,420 --> 01:46:33,020
things happening up there and a few

2195
01:46:36,700 --> 01:46:34,430
people would see it but probably not

2196
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:36,710
very many yeah it's a game changer when

2197
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:40,610
it when you see something like that yes

2198
01:46:47,290 --> 01:46:45,170
and see there and I'm not in any way

2199
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:47,300
trying to sound strange here or sexist

2200
01:46:53,979 --> 01:46:51,710
but men we grow up with the love of

2201
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:53,989
machines and mechanics and rockets and

2202
01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:57,050
planes and and we know every type of car

2203
01:47:01,240 --> 01:46:58,610
and every type of plane and helicopter

2204
01:47:04,420 --> 01:47:01,250
we know what we're looking at and when

2205
01:47:07,150 --> 01:47:04,430
you see something that you can't explain

2206
01:47:10,630 --> 01:47:07,160
because our thing that we do marshal is

2207
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:10,640
we compete in identifying oh that's a

2208
01:47:15,490 --> 01:47:13,250
you know that's a no it's not it's a you

2209
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:15,500
know we know these things we study these

2210
01:47:19,810 --> 01:47:16,970
things and when you see something that

2211
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:19,820
you can't explain away like you did

2212
01:47:24,220 --> 01:47:22,250
that's a game changer that's a game

2213
01:47:26,260 --> 01:47:24,230
changer yes

2214
01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:26,270
well you don't forget it that's for sure

2215
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:29,450
and of course if your person has been

2216
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:30,770
taken against your will

2217
01:47:37,690 --> 01:47:34,370
that's a big deal that's a very big deal

2218
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:37,700
and people who accept that or think that

2219
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:40,690
that's beneficial for them I I just I

2220
01:47:47,290 --> 01:47:43,520
feel for them because I think they're

2221
01:47:50,750 --> 01:47:49,459
you know there's something very

2222
01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:50,760
beautiful and this is part of the

2223
01:47:55,879 --> 01:47:54,239
spirituality of life in the universe and

2224
01:47:59,240 --> 01:47:55,889
I want to go back to talking if I can

2225
01:48:00,560 --> 01:47:59,250
spend a moment doing this this deeper

2226
01:48:02,060 --> 01:48:00,570
knowledge that we have because it's the

2227
01:48:02,990 --> 01:48:02,070
only part of us that cannot be

2228
01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:03,000
manipulated

2229
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:07,679
it cannot be interfered with it cannot

2230
01:48:13,250 --> 01:48:10,770
be overtaken the deeper intelligence

2231
01:48:16,910 --> 01:48:13,260
within us this makes it the most

2232
01:48:18,740 --> 01:48:16,920
reliable aspect of our entire being this

2233
01:48:20,689 --> 01:48:18,750
is like beneath the surface of our

2234
01:48:23,209 --> 01:48:20,699
worldly mind the mind that the world in

2235
01:48:25,580 --> 01:48:23,219
culture has created our history and our

2236
01:48:27,770 --> 01:48:25,590
experience is created we are surrounded

2237
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:27,780
by influences increasingly we're

2238
01:48:32,359 --> 01:48:30,000
surrounded by surveillance increasingly

2239
01:48:34,939 --> 01:48:32,369
but we have this deeper knowledge within

2240
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:34,949
us this is a thing that will tell us if

2241
01:48:40,129 --> 01:48:38,130
we can respond to it what we're looking

2242
01:48:42,879 --> 01:48:40,139
at not just in terms of something really

2243
01:48:45,049 --> 01:48:42,889
big like this but in everyday affairs in

2244
01:48:47,330 --> 01:48:45,059
discerning who to be within a

2245
01:48:49,819 --> 01:48:47,340
relationship or whether to accept an

2246
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:49,829
opportunity or not or whether to go to

2247
01:48:54,169 --> 01:48:51,650
this place or not to go to this place

2248
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:54,179
we've been given this natural in your

2249
01:49:00,080 --> 01:48:57,690
guidance not only to direct us but to

2250
01:49:02,149 --> 01:49:00,090
hold us back from the things that are

2251
01:49:04,609 --> 01:49:02,159
unhealthy for us the things that could

2252
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:04,619
endanger us and so forth that is why I

2253
01:49:10,490 --> 01:49:08,010
feel that the experience of this

2254
01:49:13,939 --> 01:49:10,500
knowledge taking the steps to this

2255
01:49:16,010 --> 01:49:13,949
knowledge holds a critical element in

2256
01:49:17,750 --> 01:49:16,020
our ability to see and know the truth

2257
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:17,760
and to be able to respond appropriately

2258
01:49:28,669 --> 01:49:24,210
right the the other part of this that I

2259
01:49:30,919 --> 01:49:28,679
find a little bit disturbing is that

2260
01:49:34,879 --> 01:49:30,929
with the release of this video this past

2261
01:49:36,859 --> 01:49:34,889
Saturday it clearly shows something that

2262
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,869
is not ours you know it's not Russian

2263
01:49:39,529 --> 01:49:38,400
it's not Chinese it's not ours we

2264
01:49:42,500 --> 01:49:39,539
doesn't understand it and it's

2265
01:49:45,020 --> 01:49:42,510
performing at a pretty extreme now we

2266
01:49:47,540 --> 01:49:45,030
have been seeing that there has been

2267
01:49:50,660 --> 01:49:47,550
enough evidence of this going on for

2268
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:50,670
four decades now on film and video and I

2269
01:49:57,009 --> 01:49:52,530
witnessed testimony I've seen these kind

2270
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:57,019
of things myself why release the video

2271
01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:59,760
you know from the government side out

2272
01:50:03,890 --> 01:50:00,719
into the

2273
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:03,900
domaine - cause I mean is it part of

2274
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:07,440
disclosure is it part of disruption are

2275
01:50:10,969 --> 01:50:08,880
they looking for a reaction from

2276
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:10,979
everybody I don't understand the reason

2277
01:50:17,330 --> 01:50:15,599
or releasing the video well those are

2278
01:50:20,919 --> 01:50:17,340
very good questions I'm not sure we can

2279
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:20,929
they're in a position to answer them

2280
01:50:25,219 --> 01:50:23,489
clearly the government knows that they

2281
01:50:27,410 --> 01:50:25,229
have to deal with this question in some

2282
01:50:29,299 --> 01:50:27,420
way with the public because enough of

2283
01:50:31,459 --> 01:50:29,309
the public now is questioning these

2284
01:50:33,890 --> 01:50:31,469
things is looking at these things is

2285
01:50:37,069 --> 01:50:33,900
responding to these things that the

2286
01:50:38,839 --> 01:50:37,079
government can't just act like it's just

2287
01:50:42,109 --> 01:50:38,849
not dealing with it or has no

2288
01:50:44,779 --> 01:50:42,119
understanding of it so it's I'm not sure

2289
01:50:46,819 --> 01:50:44,789
you know I just I'm reticent to go down

2290
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:46,829
that road because I think in the end we

2291
01:50:51,410 --> 01:50:49,679
won't know for sure well one of the

2292
01:50:54,259 --> 01:50:51,420
things that seems very important for us

2293
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:54,269
going back to this seeing and knowing

2294
01:50:57,770 --> 01:50:56,159
what we are looking at is to go on to

2295
01:51:01,009 --> 01:50:57,780
these other three questions if we can

2296
01:51:03,140 --> 01:51:01,019
because they really hold the key to

2297
01:51:06,259 --> 01:51:03,150
what's happening because what's

2298
01:51:07,729 --> 01:51:06,269
happening is only a first step if you

2299
01:51:09,649 --> 01:51:07,739
don't know why it's happening what it

2300
01:51:11,359 --> 01:51:09,659
means or what you have to do then you

2301
01:51:13,609 --> 01:51:11,369
really don't understand what's happening

2302
01:51:16,250 --> 01:51:13,619
that's right okay it's it's just the

2303
01:51:19,580 --> 01:51:16,260
first is the entree to something that we

2304
01:51:21,410 --> 01:51:19,590
have to explore and one one perspective

2305
01:51:25,609 --> 01:51:21,420
on this that I'd like to present is is

2306
01:51:29,899 --> 01:51:25,619
the most it's kind of the most natural

2307
01:51:32,589 --> 01:51:29,909
and historical why do other forms why do

2308
01:51:36,890 --> 01:51:32,599
other races in this case non-human races

2309
01:51:41,149 --> 01:51:36,900
why does intervention happen we know why

2310
01:51:43,069 --> 01:51:41,159
it happens it happens because we the

2311
01:51:47,330 --> 01:51:43,079
natives have something those powers want

2312
01:51:49,250 --> 01:51:47,340
and all the activities that the

2313
01:51:52,189 --> 01:51:49,260
intervention is demonstrating in my mind

2314
01:51:53,450 --> 01:51:52,199
is demonstrating those kind of

2315
01:51:54,979 --> 01:51:53,460
activities or things that are very

2316
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:54,989
similar to divide and conquer for

2317
01:51:59,989 --> 01:51:57,570
example or displacing the native peoples

2318
01:52:02,239 --> 01:51:59,999
natural Authority the the emphasis on

2319
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:02,249
making us increasing is trust your own

2320
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:04,170
leaders and institutions well that

2321
01:52:08,379 --> 01:52:06,329
creates a vacuum of confidence where is

2322
01:52:13,129 --> 01:52:08,389
that confidence then going to be placed

2323
01:52:14,700 --> 01:52:13,139
it gets redirected I mean certainly the

2324
01:52:16,770 --> 01:52:14,710
government is full of all

2325
01:52:18,900 --> 01:52:16,780
kinds of things to criticize and be

2326
01:52:21,229 --> 01:52:18,910
concerned about but if we live

2327
01:52:24,570 --> 01:52:21,239
confidence on her own kind leading us

2328
01:52:27,540 --> 01:52:24,580
that then creates a vacuum of confidence

2329
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:27,550
that is filled by others this is what in

2330
01:52:34,770 --> 01:52:32,350
the past intervening European nations

2331
01:52:37,290 --> 01:52:34,780
did to establish themselves as the new

2332
01:52:41,130 --> 01:52:37,300
power of the new Authority the ones to

2333
01:52:42,959 --> 01:52:41,140
follow and to believe in so we are

2334
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:42,969
dealing now with intervention I think

2335
01:52:48,530 --> 01:52:45,280
that's happening along some classic

2336
01:52:51,900 --> 01:52:48,540
lines and unless there was an absolute

2337
01:52:53,729 --> 01:52:51,910
proof that what they are doing is

2338
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:53,739
beneficial for us and I have never seen

2339
01:52:58,890 --> 01:52:56,530
it then we should take the opposite

2340
01:53:02,580 --> 01:52:58,900
position as our starting point to be

2341
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:02,590
very skeptical very cautious which means

2342
01:53:06,630 --> 01:53:05,170
we can't want anything from this we

2343
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:06,640
don't put ourselves in the position to

2344
01:53:10,110 --> 01:53:07,690
be seduced by it

2345
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:10,120
we don't insist that it be good for us

2346
01:53:15,810 --> 01:53:13,210
so we can feel more comfortable we just

2347
01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:15,820
have to have the courage to face it that

2348
01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:17,830
you know we may be the big kid on the

2349
01:53:22,620 --> 01:53:19,750
block in our own world but in this

2350
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:22,630
universe out there weren't nobody know

2351
01:53:27,810 --> 01:53:25,330
we're hillbillies we're hillbillies and

2352
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:27,820
we're sitting on a planet a very rare

2353
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:30,400
planet I know there's lots of planets

2354
01:53:36,420 --> 01:53:34,090
than theirs but planets like ours the

2355
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:36,430
new revelations are very rare and highly

2356
01:53:42,810 --> 01:53:40,000
valued so those races in here today are

2357
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:42,820
taking a long time to go about

2358
01:53:50,940 --> 01:53:46,000
intervening in our world integrating

2359
01:53:52,740 --> 01:53:50,950
themselves into our lives gaining are at

2360
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:52,750
least four sufficient numbers of people

2361
01:54:00,930 --> 01:53:56,050
gaining our acquiescence or our approval

2362
01:54:05,459 --> 01:54:00,940
or at least our tolerance that they then

2363
01:54:08,850 --> 01:54:05,469
become part of us and many people want

2364
01:54:10,830 --> 01:54:08,860
them to become part of us even greater

2365
01:54:14,970 --> 01:54:10,840
community people want them to because

2366
01:54:18,530 --> 01:54:14,980
we're trying to reconnect with the

2367
01:54:23,250 --> 01:54:18,540
universe and that's a very natural

2368
01:54:26,780 --> 01:54:23,260
valuable inspiration but we're also

2369
01:54:28,810 --> 01:54:26,790
living in the real physical universe

2370
01:54:31,959 --> 01:54:28,820
where

2371
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:31,969
confused in our higher aspirations with

2372
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:33,770
certain levels of reality that we have

2373
01:54:40,959 --> 01:54:38,090
to deal with and as the native peoples

2374
01:54:44,350 --> 01:54:40,969
we have to see this correctly we have to

2375
01:54:47,620 --> 01:54:44,360
have a starting point and I don't see

2376
01:54:49,870 --> 01:54:47,630
that in fact it's so infrequent in my

2377
01:54:53,020 --> 01:54:49,880
experience I certainly you hear it in

2378
01:54:55,780 --> 01:54:53,030
your show but the events that I've

2379
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:55,790
attended even you know spoken at I'm

2380
01:55:01,629 --> 01:55:00,560
like the only person who's saying hey we

2381
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:01,639
need disclosure from the

2382
01:55:10,899 --> 01:55:05,599
extra-terrestrial presence that's where

2383
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:10,909
we need disclosure the unquestioning

2384
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:13,310
this I'm the only one saying this is not

2385
01:55:15,970 --> 01:55:14,090
a good thing

2386
01:55:17,500 --> 01:55:15,980
all right and it's like reading I'm

2387
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:17,510
raining on other people's parades you

2388
01:55:20,379 --> 01:55:19,040
know they're they're really getting off

2389
01:55:22,930 --> 01:55:20,389
on this they think this is really

2390
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:22,940
exciting and fun and interesting and I'm

2391
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:25,119
coming along and saying hey people this

2392
01:55:30,839 --> 01:55:29,119
is nature again we're facing competitors

2393
01:55:33,580 --> 01:55:30,849
from the universe who are very clever

2394
01:55:35,740 --> 01:55:33,590
but they're using our weaknesses and our

2395
01:55:37,450 --> 01:55:35,750
divisions against us but marshal this

2396
01:55:39,550 --> 01:55:37,460
has been the fundament we've had two

2397
01:55:41,850 --> 01:55:39,560
fundamental questions since we were able

2398
01:55:45,959 --> 01:55:41,860
to figure out how to laugh and think

2399
01:55:50,290 --> 01:55:45,969
okay going back 10,000 years which is

2400
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:50,300
first what happens after we die second

2401
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:53,090
are we alone in the universe that's in

2402
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:56,210
and and if we can get one of those two

2403
01:56:01,780 --> 01:55:58,639
questions answered we're halfway there

2404
01:56:04,060 --> 01:56:01,790
and that's the way that the world is

2405
01:56:06,129 --> 01:56:04,070
looking at all of this I mean it is a

2406
01:56:09,669 --> 01:56:06,139
it's a fundamental thing you're two

2407
01:56:11,439 --> 01:56:09,679
years old three years old you know young

2408
01:56:13,169 --> 01:56:11,449
little baby Marshall are running around

2409
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:13,179
in your backyard looking up at the stars

2410
01:56:19,930 --> 01:56:15,770
you're thinking what's going on out

2411
01:56:24,689 --> 01:56:19,940
there yes that's right and it's now but

2412
01:56:28,930 --> 01:56:24,699
but this is the other part though if if

2413
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:28,940
the contact is established you know

2414
01:56:32,589 --> 01:56:30,560
beyond you know the video that we just

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01:56:35,530 --> 01:56:32,599
saw and everything else that's going on

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01:56:38,379 --> 01:56:35,540
if that contact is established are we

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01:56:41,319 --> 01:56:38,389
are we not able for deal-making

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01:56:42,669 --> 01:56:41,329
you know is because that's what we like

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01:56:45,219 --> 01:56:42,679
to do we like to cut a deal

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01:56:47,439 --> 01:56:45,229
like you said the better the better food

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01:56:50,379 --> 01:56:47,449
is across the valley how do we get that

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01:56:52,449 --> 01:56:50,389
right okay so that's what we do is there

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01:56:55,149 --> 01:56:52,459
no deal-making to be had here and if

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01:56:58,750 --> 01:56:55,159
there is certainly et is already

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01:57:00,489 --> 01:56:58,760
outsmarted us on that upfront right they

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:00,499
know that we're gonna try to make a deal

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01:57:05,319 --> 01:57:03,650
so now we've got this paradox and that's

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01:57:06,580 --> 01:57:05,329
that's the thing I don't know I I don't

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01:57:08,439 --> 01:57:06,590
know what to do about it we're gonna

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01:57:11,649 --> 01:57:08,449
discuss more of this after the break but

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01:57:15,299 --> 01:57:11,659
you know is there is there not a way to

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01:57:17,529 --> 01:57:15,309
move forward through this intervention I

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01:57:19,660 --> 01:57:17,539
believe there is we can certainly talk

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01:57:22,149 --> 01:57:19,670
about that yeah I think we need

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01:57:23,709 --> 01:57:22,159
solutions we have the questions we need

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01:57:25,359 --> 01:57:23,719
the solutions so let's take a break

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01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:25,369
right here our guest tonight marginal

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01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:27,170
summers at Mars so I'm just gonna let

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01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:28,400
you know I'm enjoying this conversation

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01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:32,719
but I expected it I expected it this is

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fade to black your host Jupiter's more

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with Marshall after this short break

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now Marshall we need answers we need

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solutions and one is yeah and one of the

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02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:41,010
things that I've always said about et

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02:02:46,970 --> 02:02:44,010
and certainly with things like

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02:02:50,150 --> 02:02:46,980
artificial intelligence and singularity

2540
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:50,160
when we start to get around things that

2541
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:52,530
are smarter than us and we think we are

2542
02:02:59,209 --> 02:02:56,010
out smarting some it they have that

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02:03:02,360 --> 02:02:59,219
answer before we even do something there

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02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:02,370
is no kill switch they will have thought

2545
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:04,410
about the kill switch before we even

2546
02:03:11,870 --> 02:03:07,650
invent it so we do need these solutions

2547
02:03:13,820 --> 02:03:11,880
what do we do okay well I think one of

2548
02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:13,830
the things we need to do is we need to

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02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:17,280
become aware the awareness not just for

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02:03:20,090 --> 02:03:18,810
you know our listeners because I'm sure

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02:03:22,370 --> 02:03:20,100
your listeners are very aware that we're

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02:03:24,020 --> 02:03:22,380
being visited but we need to begin to

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02:03:26,689 --> 02:03:24,030
consider the other three questions and

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02:03:29,900 --> 02:03:26,699
not just from the standpoint of what we

2555
02:03:34,580 --> 02:03:29,910
want but from a deeper sense of what we

2556
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:34,590
know and we have to start with reality

2557
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:37,530
this is about reality now and reality is

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02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:39,360
something that you can apprehend if you

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02:03:47,419 --> 02:03:42,690
can approach it without press preference

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02:03:48,709 --> 02:03:47,429
or are pre considered conclusions we're

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02:03:52,220 --> 02:03:48,719
dealing with something that's that's a

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02:03:54,380 --> 02:03:52,230
reality that we we can determine this is

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02:03:55,610 --> 02:03:54,390
not a mystery you know I've I've always

2564
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:55,620
been asked well this is such a mystery

2565
02:03:59,810 --> 02:03:56,850
we're never going to understand this I

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02:04:00,620 --> 02:03:59,820
said it's ridiculous this is ridiculous

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02:04:03,410 --> 02:04:00,630
is nature

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02:04:06,500 --> 02:04:03,420
I mean elements at an elementary level

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02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:06,510
this is nature and I want to make one

2570
02:04:12,380 --> 02:04:08,250
point before we get into specifics of

2571
02:04:14,330 --> 02:04:12,390
preparation is to say that the

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02:04:15,410 --> 02:04:14,340
intervention here today and our

2573
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:15,420
emergence into the screen

2574
02:04:20,419 --> 02:04:17,370
community of intelligent life is about

2575
02:04:22,970 --> 02:04:20,429
our spirituality not because of the

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02:04:25,250 --> 02:04:22,980
visitors but because of what this can do

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02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:25,260
for us and our world as I said before

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02:04:32,630 --> 02:04:28,130
this is the only thing that unites a

2579
02:04:34,310 --> 02:04:32,640
diffracted and competing humanity and we

2580
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:34,320
have to enter this greater community

2581
02:04:38,959 --> 02:04:36,810
with some degree of functional unity or

2582
02:04:40,430 --> 02:04:38,969
we're not going to survive there we're

2583
02:04:43,490 --> 02:04:40,440
never going to have be able to establish

2584
02:04:45,380 --> 02:04:43,500
and maintain freedom there it takes a

2585
02:04:47,209 --> 02:04:45,390
very United race to do this and that's

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02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:47,219
why I said the three things that are

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02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:49,890
necessary for this are unity self

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02:04:56,660 --> 02:04:54,330
sufficiency and discretion the

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02:04:59,870 --> 02:04:56,670
preparation has to begin with awareness

2590
02:05:02,540 --> 02:04:59,880
and education we need to learn things

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02:05:05,630 --> 02:05:02,550
about the greater community that is not

2592
02:05:09,919 --> 02:05:05,640
us that is the greater community itself

2593
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:09,929
and I think I can make a contribution to

2594
02:05:14,959 --> 02:05:12,480
that through the writings that I've

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02:05:17,180 --> 02:05:14,969
received the book life in the universe

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02:05:20,150 --> 02:05:17,190
which you can read free online just

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02:05:22,550 --> 02:05:20,160
Google life in the universe the reality

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02:05:25,910 --> 02:05:22,560
and spirituality of Intel life in the

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02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:25,920
universe these books give you an

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02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:28,530
opportunity then to reconsider the

2601
02:05:33,620 --> 02:05:30,330
realities that exist out there because

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02:05:35,810 --> 02:05:33,630
there's no greener pastures out there in

2603
02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:35,820
fact after a while you begin to realize

2604
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:38,880
how valuable this planet is and how hard

2605
02:05:45,439 --> 02:05:43,440
life is out there in the universe this

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02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:45,449
is a real sea change and how people

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02:05:52,490 --> 02:05:49,050
might begin to respond to the specter of

2608
02:05:54,260 --> 02:05:52,500
life in the universe in life the book

2609
02:05:56,900 --> 02:05:54,270
life neither is the whole first part of

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02:05:59,660 --> 02:05:56,910
it is about the mundane prosaic

2611
02:06:02,390 --> 02:05:59,670
realities of our local universe the

2612
02:06:04,729 --> 02:06:02,400
things we need to know and the second

2613
02:06:07,070 --> 02:06:04,739
part is about the spirituality of life

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02:06:08,330 --> 02:06:07,080
in the universe and how God works in the

2615
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:08,340
universe through the power of knowledge

2616
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:12,690
within sentient life and it's a it's

2617
02:06:18,020 --> 02:06:16,110
very very clear but it's very different

2618
02:06:21,890 --> 02:06:18,030
than how people usually think of these

2619
02:06:24,110 --> 02:06:21,900
things so the education has to be really

2620
02:06:26,060 --> 02:06:24,120
sound and I think that there may be

2621
02:06:29,089 --> 02:06:26,070
something here that I think is going to

2622
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:34,049
the mmm this is this is where I believe

2623
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:35,050
that you're right

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02:06:39,620 --> 02:06:37,360
and and let me make this statement and

2625
02:06:42,569 --> 02:06:39,630
then let's move forward if we

2626
02:06:44,399 --> 02:06:42,579
encountered we you and I right you and I

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02:06:46,830 --> 02:06:44,409
were on our starship and we go to

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02:06:49,410 --> 02:06:46,840
another planet that's got life we would

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02:06:52,370 --> 02:06:49,420
expect seriously

2630
02:06:55,739 --> 02:06:52,380
that everybody on that planet

2631
02:06:59,729 --> 02:06:55,749
represented that planet they were one

2632
02:07:02,359 --> 02:06:59,739
and they were whole ETS comes here and

2633
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:02,369
they see the exact opposite of that

2634
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:05,199
basically we are completely foreign to

2635
02:07:09,810 --> 02:07:08,110
our own selves we are fighting ourselves

2636
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:09,820
we have different ideologies which is

2637
02:07:13,890 --> 02:07:12,130
all great but we don't we have not

2638
02:07:16,290 --> 02:07:13,900
figured out a way to all get along and

2639
02:07:18,540 --> 02:07:16,300
we would expect that we would expect

2640
02:07:21,179 --> 02:07:18,550
that on another planet wouldn't we we

2641
02:07:24,029 --> 02:07:21,189
would estimate and the fact that we are

2642
02:07:25,979 --> 02:07:24,039
so divided makes us a perfect

2643
02:07:27,569 --> 02:07:25,989
opportunity for a divide and conquer

2644
02:07:30,140 --> 02:07:27,579
strategy this is how it works

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02:07:32,729 --> 02:07:30,150
certainly since how even in the native

2646
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:32,739
example from history different tribes

2647
02:07:38,489 --> 02:07:36,400
were cast against each other or their

2648
02:07:40,919 --> 02:07:38,499
natural their their historic enemies

2649
02:07:42,509 --> 02:07:40,929
were pitted against each other and we

2650
02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:42,519
see this in the world today I mean the

2651
02:07:46,830 --> 02:07:44,650
intervention seeks to increase human

2652
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:46,840
conflict in the world particularly to

2653
02:07:52,939 --> 02:07:48,400
take the most powerful nations in the

2654
02:08:01,140 --> 02:07:56,129
situations that they can't they can't

2655
02:08:05,310 --> 02:08:01,150
get out of we do it constantly Marshall

2656
02:08:07,770 --> 02:08:05,320
we do it with our own but there's an

2657
02:08:10,620 --> 02:08:07,780
incentive to weaken the most powerful

2658
02:08:15,719 --> 02:08:10,630
nations to get them in intractable

2659
02:08:19,739 --> 02:08:15,729
conflicts to weaken them to impoverish

2660
02:08:21,839 --> 02:08:19,749
them and this is going on increasingly

2661
02:08:25,949 --> 02:08:21,849
as the intervention takes has greater

2662
02:08:28,169 --> 02:08:25,959
influence in our world I see this it's

2663
02:08:30,419 --> 02:08:28,179
not just human error it's not just human

2664
02:08:33,529 --> 02:08:30,429
stupidity there is the purpose behind

2665
02:08:36,449 --> 02:08:33,539
these kinds of things being stimulated

2666
02:08:40,700 --> 02:08:36,459
who is who is stimulating our appetite

2667
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:40,710
for war this serves the intervention

2668
02:08:46,610 --> 02:08:44,400
as long as they want to pit us against

2669
02:08:50,209 --> 02:08:46,620
each other they want us to focus on each

2670
02:08:51,950 --> 02:08:50,219
other this is why human you know

2671
02:08:53,959 --> 02:08:51,960
conspiracy theories the only focus on

2672
02:08:56,510 --> 02:08:53,969
government serves the intervention

2673
02:08:58,990 --> 02:08:56,520
because it's us being obsessed with each

2674
02:09:02,560 --> 02:08:59,000
other in a very conflicted and

2675
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:02,570
adversarial way and our attention is off

2676
02:09:07,250 --> 02:09:04,800
the intervention we're not thinking

2677
02:09:10,490 --> 02:09:07,260
about them we need to be thinking about

2678
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:10,500
them we're not thinking about them well

2679
02:09:15,950 --> 02:09:12,450
isn't this why disclosure is a good

2680
02:09:20,060 --> 02:09:15,960
thing then I think disclosure is a good

2681
02:09:23,630 --> 02:09:20,070
thing if it could be sustained because

2682
02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:23,640
you know the news is sensational in the

2683
02:09:28,580 --> 02:09:25,650
moment and then it goes onto something

2684
02:09:30,530 --> 02:09:28,590
else and people kind of forget what do

2685
02:09:34,070 --> 02:09:30,540
you think stained if this could be a

2686
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:34,080
sustained disclosure objectively like

2687
02:09:37,820 --> 02:09:35,850
this is just what people saw this is

2688
02:09:40,220 --> 02:09:37,830
what people experienced without

2689
02:09:43,340 --> 02:09:40,230
commentary trying to define it or make

2690
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:43,350
it palatable to human consumption the

2691
02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:45,360
pilot saw this the person on the ground

2692
02:09:52,370 --> 02:09:48,390
saw that see this is the kind of

2693
02:09:54,140 --> 02:09:52,380
disclosure we need what's the next step

2694
02:09:56,030 --> 02:09:54,150
that's somebody explaining the whole

2695
02:09:59,990 --> 02:09:56,040
thing based upon their the theory or

2696
02:10:02,750 --> 02:10:00,000
philosophy about life what would sustain

2697
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:02,760
it what's next I don't know what would

2698
02:10:07,610 --> 02:10:04,530
sustain it I don't think I think

2699
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:07,620
disclosure is really the thing that

2700
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:09,330
isn't so important I think we have to

2701
02:10:13,700 --> 02:10:12,330
educate people this is happening and we

2702
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:13,710
have to talk about knowledge because

2703
02:10:18,740 --> 02:10:15,360
knowledge is there their ability to see

2704
02:10:20,209 --> 02:10:18,750
the truth beyond deception and there's

2705
02:10:22,370 --> 02:10:20,219
nothing else in our mind that can really

2706
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:22,380
do that but it hasn't worked in the past

2707
02:10:27,170 --> 02:10:25,410
though Marshall because it hasn't worked

2708
02:10:29,450 --> 02:10:27,180
sufficiently in the past that everything

2709
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:29,460
good that has been created in our

2710
02:10:34,430 --> 02:10:32,850
history has been able to happen but you

2711
02:10:36,110 --> 02:10:34,440
know there's so much ignorance in the

2712
02:10:38,209 --> 02:10:36,120
world and there's so much violence in

2713
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:38,219
the world so much poverty think about

2714
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:41,520
half of the human population can't even

2715
02:10:46,479 --> 02:10:43,170
make a contribution to humanity I'm

2716
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:46,489
talking about women now they're tethered

2717
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:50,880
took to domestic duties all over the

2718
02:10:57,220 --> 02:10:53,690
world how much of the world lives in

2719
02:10:58,780 --> 02:10:57,230
poverty how staggering half stack great

2720
02:11:01,780 --> 02:10:58,790
all those people are never going to make

2721
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:01,790
a contribution to society this is what's

2722
02:11:08,350 --> 02:11:04,010
keeping us poor this is what's keeping

2723
02:11:11,350 --> 02:11:08,360
us in a state of constant aggravation so

2724
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:11,360
the spiritual connection here is very

2725
02:11:16,630 --> 02:11:14,410
important because life in the universe

2726
02:11:18,580 --> 02:11:16,640
requires us to engage with this

2727
02:11:21,660 --> 02:11:18,590
knowledge if we have any hope of

2728
02:11:27,490 --> 02:11:21,670
understanding it and preparing for it I

2729
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:27,500
have often said and this is where I can

2730
02:11:32,860 --> 02:11:29,810
I conflict in my own mind I have this

2731
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:32,870
conflict which is this half of the world

2732
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:35,890
half three and a half billion people

2733
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:41,690
live in garbage dumps and to those kids

2734
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:44,330
those children five six seven years old

2735
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:47,690
that don't have a hope of an education

2736
02:11:52,150 --> 02:11:51,890
let alone a meal the next day right they

2737
02:11:56,260 --> 02:11:52,160
don't

2738
02:11:58,720 --> 02:11:56,270
what does et have to do with them they

2739
02:12:00,310 --> 02:11:58,730
don't under they have no clue about what

2740
02:12:01,870 --> 02:12:00,320
you and I are talking about right now

2741
02:12:07,270 --> 02:12:01,880
which are very important to us

2742
02:12:09,490 --> 02:12:07,280
right so what about them well you know

2743
02:12:12,490 --> 02:12:09,500
it's I'm gonna answer this in a kind of

2744
02:12:17,439 --> 02:12:12,500
odd way it's the people who are free

2745
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:17,449
enough educated enough who can make the

2746
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:20,480
difference the personalism the garbage

2747
02:12:24,910 --> 02:12:21,650
don't can't do it

2748
02:12:26,590 --> 02:12:24,920
they are circumstantially oppressed it

2749
02:12:28,979 --> 02:12:26,600
could be religiously oppressed it could

2750
02:12:32,500 --> 02:12:28,989
be politically oppressed on top of that

2751
02:12:34,570 --> 02:12:32,510
it's the people like you and me and your

2752
02:12:37,900 --> 02:12:34,580
listeners most of your listeners who are

2753
02:12:40,570 --> 02:12:37,910
free enough who have the opportunity to

2754
02:12:42,910 --> 02:12:40,580
become educated who have the willingness

2755
02:12:45,970 --> 02:12:42,920
to look into this great and powerful

2756
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:45,980
phenomenon that can make the difference

2757
02:12:50,650 --> 02:12:48,110
I think getting disclosure from the

2758
02:12:53,170 --> 02:12:50,660
government is hopeless I think it's

2759
02:12:54,220 --> 02:12:53,180
really a waste of time it's net we're

2760
02:12:55,660 --> 02:12:54,230
never going to get the whole picture

2761
02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:55,670
they're never going to tell us the whole

2762
02:12:59,620 --> 02:12:57,770
truth and they're gonna tend to

2763
02:13:03,430 --> 02:12:59,630
condition it to their advantage to

2764
02:13:06,010 --> 02:13:03,440
whatever degree that they do now when an

2765
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:06,020
eight when a Air Force pilot or a Navy

2766
02:13:09,850 --> 02:13:07,040
pilot in this case

2767
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:09,860
says I saw these craft that's good

2768
02:13:15,210 --> 02:13:12,800
disclosure but beyond that the

2769
02:13:17,980 --> 02:13:15,220
government's not going to show its hand

2770
02:13:18,990 --> 02:13:17,990
but we don't need the government to know

2771
02:13:27,010 --> 02:13:19,000
the truth

2772
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:27,020
of you know my whole approach to this

2773
02:13:33,070 --> 02:13:31,490
people can know the truth if certain if

2774
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:33,080
a certain thing is stimulated within

2775
02:13:40,300 --> 02:13:38,480
them and we all experience this besides

2776
02:13:42,340 --> 02:13:40,310
the fact that we do stupid things in a

2777
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:42,350
lettuce tray and get seduced into

2778
02:13:49,060 --> 02:13:45,290
various things we have this ability to

2779
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:49,070
know the truth and to respond to it this

2780
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:50,930
is the thing that's going to need to

2781
02:13:55,420 --> 02:13:52,610
happen it doesn't it's not going to

2782
02:13:58,030 --> 02:13:55,430
happen with everyone listen the American

2783
02:14:01,060 --> 02:13:58,040
Revolution was only supported by 25% or

2784
02:14:04,780 --> 02:14:01,070
20% of the population right and it

2785
02:14:07,180 --> 02:14:04,790
worked so it's not like everyone it's

2786
02:14:10,450 --> 02:14:07,190
like the people who have a need and you

2787
02:14:13,900 --> 02:14:10,460
know and can make a difference they're

2788
02:14:19,090 --> 02:14:13,910
free enough to make a difference and we

2789
02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:19,100
are those people ok I'm all I can give

2790
02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:21,170
to the person living the dump is food

2791
02:14:28,510 --> 02:14:24,170
and shelter and security that's what

2792
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:28,520
those people need you know the greater

2793
02:14:32,890 --> 02:14:30,320
community is not important to them

2794
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:32,900
probably their needs are much more

2795
02:14:38,500 --> 02:14:37,280
elemental and overwhelming but for us we

2796
02:14:41,350 --> 02:14:38,510
have the opportunity to see the big

2797
02:14:43,630 --> 02:14:41,360
picture we need to see it clearly we

2798
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:43,640
need to see it without preference

2799
02:14:51,670 --> 02:14:49,040
without fear we can't be looking at it

2800
02:14:54,820 --> 02:14:51,680
to fulfill ourselves spiritually even

2801
02:14:56,140 --> 02:14:54,830
though as I said before our emergence

2802
02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:56,150
into the greater community will be the

2803
02:15:00,700 --> 02:14:58,880
most powerful spiritual expansion that

2804
02:15:03,790 --> 02:15:00,710
we've had but it's not because of the

2805
02:15:06,490 --> 02:15:03,800
visitors who are here it's because of

2806
02:15:09,910 --> 02:15:06,500
what will happen within us in this

2807
02:15:13,620 --> 02:15:09,920
process of emergence and the beautiful

2808
02:15:16,570 --> 02:15:13,630
thing is there is no going back now

2809
02:15:19,300 --> 02:15:16,580
there is no we've taken a huge step

2810
02:15:20,169 --> 02:15:19,310
forward that cannot be taken away from

2811
02:15:22,179 --> 02:15:20,179
us

2812
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:22,189
we there you know what I mean there's no

2813
02:15:26,799 --> 02:15:24,079
taking a step back now we're only going

2814
02:15:30,929 --> 02:15:26,809
to move forward but the other part of

2815
02:15:34,239 --> 02:15:30,939
this is if we can't do it if we're not

2816
02:15:36,969 --> 02:15:34,249
how do I I want to say this sounding

2817
02:15:39,250 --> 02:15:36,979
positive and not negative but we may not

2818
02:15:42,029 --> 02:15:39,260
be smart enough right to run the end of

2819
02:15:45,819 --> 02:15:42,039
round pattern here we may not be able to

2820
02:15:48,729 --> 02:15:45,829
to put a play in play but the

2821
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:48,739
alternative is what though do we arm

2822
02:15:56,049 --> 02:15:52,010
ourselves or do we don't we wouldn't

2823
02:15:58,689 --> 02:15:56,059
have the technology to so I mean I'm not

2824
02:16:01,779 --> 02:15:58,699
so sure you know how to move forward if

2825
02:16:04,359 --> 02:16:01,789
there is a big plan to come in and take

2826
02:16:07,389 --> 02:16:04,369
this planet and use us as slaves if you

2827
02:16:09,489 --> 02:16:07,399
know what I mean I'm speaking you know I

2828
02:16:11,020 --> 02:16:09,499
think this is a very critical question

2829
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:11,030
the fact is we're not dealing with

2830
02:16:15,009 --> 02:16:13,280
military forces here right that is not

2831
02:16:16,779 --> 02:16:15,019
the strength that is not their power and

2832
02:16:18,310 --> 02:16:16,789
they are constrained by certain rules of

2833
02:16:20,500 --> 02:16:18,320
engagement that exist in our local

2834
02:16:21,969 --> 02:16:20,510
universe which is something no one an

2835
02:16:23,529 --> 02:16:21,979
earth could ever know about but is

2836
02:16:26,439 --> 02:16:23,539
revealed through this new message and

2837
02:16:29,229 --> 02:16:26,449
it's revealed in such a way because we

2838
02:16:30,369 --> 02:16:29,239
need to know the limits of the power of

2839
02:16:34,059 --> 02:16:30,379
those who are in our world what

2840
02:16:35,889 --> 02:16:34,069
restrains them what encourages them we

2841
02:16:37,570 --> 02:16:35,899
have the we actually have the upper hand

2842
02:16:41,169 --> 02:16:37,580
here we just do not exercise that

2843
02:16:43,389 --> 02:16:41,179
authority how so because we have the

2844
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:43,399
eyes to see we can visit we can notice

2845
02:16:47,530 --> 02:16:44,719
everything they're doing in the world

2846
02:16:49,450 --> 02:16:47,540
and we can speak out against it and that

2847
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:49,460
then itself would be would begin to

2848
02:16:53,139 --> 02:16:51,050
thwart the interventions occurring in

2849
02:16:55,689 --> 02:16:53,149
the world today and in the process we

2850
02:16:58,120 --> 02:16:55,699
would gain greater unity cooperation all

2851
02:17:00,099 --> 02:16:58,130
the things that we really need that can

2852
02:17:02,679 --> 02:17:00,109
only happen under circumstances like

2853
02:17:04,839 --> 02:17:02,689
this we're never going to unite because

2854
02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:04,849
we should we're going to unite because

2855
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:08,719
we have to and our emergency the greater

2856
02:17:14,799 --> 02:17:11,330
community is going to make us do this or

2857
02:17:17,019 --> 02:17:14,809
break us this is the power of our times

2858
02:17:18,910 --> 02:17:17,029
you know things that are important just

2859
02:17:20,889 --> 02:17:18,920
don't happen because somebody just wants

2860
02:17:24,519 --> 02:17:20,899
it to happen they happen because they

2861
02:17:26,469 --> 02:17:24,529
must it's that word must a lot of people

2862
02:17:29,950 --> 02:17:26,479
don't like that word I think it's it's

2863
02:17:32,740 --> 02:17:29,960
too forceful but that is the power of

2864
02:17:33,820 --> 02:17:32,750
our time we must do certain things and

2865
02:17:35,740 --> 02:17:33,830
it's going to

2866
02:17:37,480 --> 02:17:35,750
with individuals it's not going to start

2867
02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:37,490
with governments and leaders it's going

2868
02:17:42,850 --> 02:17:40,880
to start with the people and we are the

2869
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:42,860
people and this is where this is all

2870
02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:45,200
really happening this is where the truth

2871
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:47,599
is emerging and can emerge and become

2872
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:51,110
strong you know when people are most

2873
02:17:55,120 --> 02:17:52,610
noble is when they are dealing with a

2874
02:17:57,100 --> 02:17:55,130
crisis right the house is on fire so

2875
02:17:58,390 --> 02:17:57,110
everybody goes there to try to help do

2876
02:18:00,669 --> 02:17:58,400
whatever they can you can put their own

2877
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:00,679
lives at risk to save the people who are

2878
02:18:06,190 --> 02:18:03,110
endangered that's when we are at our

2879
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:06,200
best we need something like this to be

2880
02:18:11,020 --> 02:18:08,570
at our best because otherwise we all

2881
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:11,030
sink and submerge into a kind of a

2882
02:18:14,650 --> 02:18:13,010
listless state or we become obsessed

2883
02:18:17,500 --> 02:18:14,660
with our needs and our problems and

2884
02:18:20,650 --> 02:18:17,510
ourselves it's it's the bigger need that

2885
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:20,660
draws us out of that and into the

2886
02:18:24,700 --> 02:18:23,210
greatness that we carry and this

2887
02:18:26,620 --> 02:18:24,710
greatness that we carry has to do with

2888
02:18:28,540 --> 02:18:26,630
this knowledge that I speak of it is

2889
02:18:30,730 --> 02:18:28,550
activated by the very kinds of

2890
02:18:32,919 --> 02:18:30,740
circumstances that we're having to face

2891
02:18:36,580 --> 02:18:32,929
which seems so overwhelming but in

2892
02:18:39,070 --> 02:18:36,590
essence hold the real key to our

2893
02:18:41,230 --> 02:18:39,080
Redemption we are have to going to have

2894
02:18:42,520 --> 02:18:41,240
to earn our freedom in the universe no

2895
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:42,530
one's going to come and give it to us

2896
02:18:47,650 --> 02:18:44,810
we're not we just can't have it because

2897
02:18:49,780 --> 02:18:47,660
we're nice or because we expect that

2898
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:49,790
we're going to have to earn it like we

2899
02:18:53,860 --> 02:18:51,889
always have had to earn it to whatever

2900
02:18:56,110 --> 02:18:53,870
degree we've ever been able to have it

2901
02:18:58,690 --> 02:18:56,120
and now we're talking about the whole

2902
02:19:02,230 --> 02:18:58,700
planet having to earn it not everybody

2903
02:19:04,660 --> 02:19:02,240
but enough people of conscience who are

2904
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:04,670
dedicated to doing this earn what though

2905
02:19:11,770 --> 02:19:09,490
marshal respect establish our rules of

2906
02:19:13,209 --> 02:19:11,780
engagement which means you can't come

2907
02:19:15,490 --> 02:19:13,219
here without our permission and if you

2908
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:15,500
do we will oppose you with all the force

2909
02:19:20,410 --> 02:19:18,050
that we have right that's overwhelming

2910
02:19:26,589 --> 02:19:20,420
force considering the presence of those

2911
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:26,599
in our world today a mental well of

2912
02:19:30,430 --> 02:19:26,960
course

2913
02:19:31,900 --> 02:19:30,440
ok so let me jump in here so I'm

2914
02:19:34,330 --> 02:19:31,910
understanding because I'm with you on

2915
02:19:39,580 --> 02:19:34,340
this if I'm understanding you correctly

2916
02:19:41,650 --> 02:19:39,590
which is this our body you get a sliver

2917
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:41,660
in your body it gets rejected right

2918
02:19:45,959 --> 02:19:43,610
eventually it gets expelled

2919
02:19:49,139 --> 02:19:45,969
are you suggesting that

2920
02:19:53,910 --> 02:19:49,149
this planet if we all come together and

2921
02:19:56,250 --> 02:19:53,920
not want this but that is more powerful

2922
02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:56,260
than anything else and if we just don't

2923
02:20:01,650 --> 02:19:59,920
want et here that that would be strong

2924
02:20:05,460 --> 02:20:01,660
enough that would be the overwhelming

2925
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:05,470
force I think I would cast it slightly

2926
02:20:09,660 --> 02:20:06,250
differently

2927
02:20:12,599 --> 02:20:09,670
we don't want intervention when we're

2928
02:20:15,179 --> 02:20:12,609
ready would we have enough unity enough

2929
02:20:19,530 --> 02:20:15,189
strength enough education about life in

2930
02:20:22,559 --> 02:20:19,540
the universe then we could be ready for

2931
02:20:26,370 --> 02:20:22,569
visit real visitation we are not ready

2932
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:26,380
but we cannot have intervention we will

2933
02:20:30,840 --> 02:20:28,960
welcome people into our house but we

2934
02:20:35,370 --> 02:20:30,850
have to welcome them on our terms

2935
02:20:38,250 --> 02:20:35,380
right it cannot be intervention why is

2936
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:38,260
it that and we're winding down here I

2937
02:20:42,030 --> 02:20:40,330
want to thank you before we do run out

2938
02:20:48,860 --> 02:20:42,040
of time this has been an absolutely

2939
02:20:51,780 --> 02:20:48,870
amazing conversation is there is there

2940
02:20:55,530 --> 02:20:51,790
and again I want to sound positive here

2941
02:20:58,380 --> 02:20:55,540
I don't want to sound negative but to to

2942
02:21:02,010 --> 02:20:58,390
allow that to happen to go to that next

2943
02:21:04,620 --> 02:21:02,020
step of of I'm not talking you know

2944
02:21:11,250 --> 02:21:04,630
moving past intervention and acceptance

2945
02:21:16,170 --> 02:21:11,260
into the universe is it how do I want to

2946
02:21:19,950 --> 02:21:16,180
say this I want to say this right do we

2947
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:19,960
have to all here on this planet do we

2948
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:22,450
have to all be on the same page I guess

2949
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:24,880
that's the best way to put it how do we

2950
02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:28,050
how do we get to how do we get to that

2951
02:21:32,880 --> 02:21:30,850
without everything else that that comes

2952
02:21:34,740 --> 02:21:32,890
in with the negative aspect of it I

2953
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:34,750
don't know how we how we can have it

2954
02:21:38,729 --> 02:21:36,880
both ways how we can get everybody on

2955
02:21:41,250 --> 02:21:38,739
this planet to understand it because it

2956
02:21:43,500 --> 02:21:41,260
hasn't worked in the past it's all been

2957
02:21:46,410 --> 02:21:43,510
on faith in the past it's all been on

2958
02:21:47,820 --> 02:21:46,420
faith without having this the nuts and

2959
02:21:50,700 --> 02:21:47,830
bolts side of this in front of because

2960
02:21:54,300 --> 02:21:50,710
that's what we that's what we asked for

2961
02:21:56,219 --> 02:21:54,310
yes you know first of all we don't need

2962
02:21:58,050 --> 02:21:56,229
everyone of the planet to be involved in

2963
02:21:59,580 --> 02:21:58,060
this because most people are way too

2964
02:22:02,510 --> 02:21:59,590
oppressed by poverty and

2965
02:22:05,460 --> 02:22:02,520
degradation to even have a chance at it

2966
02:22:07,770 --> 02:22:05,470
it's going to be up to the people again

2967
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:07,780
like I said who have the awareness and

2968
02:22:14,969 --> 02:22:11,050
the focus to sound this alarm we're

2969
02:22:18,889 --> 02:22:14,979
sounding an alarm now I'm sounding an

2970
02:22:22,020 --> 02:22:18,899
alarm wherever I go I'm giving the the

2971
02:22:23,490 --> 02:22:22,030
dilemma the hazard and the great

2972
02:22:25,020 --> 02:22:23,500
opportunity because I think that our

2973
02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:25,030
merchants in the greater community is

2974
02:22:30,179 --> 02:22:26,890
destiny and it will be a tremendous

2975
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:30,189
upgrade for Humanity but upgrades do not

2976
02:22:34,530 --> 02:22:32,800
happen in of themselves they happen as a

2977
02:22:38,190 --> 02:22:34,540
result of us having to do things we've

2978
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:38,200
never done before and adapting to life

2979
02:22:42,300 --> 02:22:39,760
in the universe is something we have

2980
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:42,310
never done before learning how to deal

2981
02:22:46,530 --> 02:22:44,050
with visitation is something we've never

2982
02:22:48,270 --> 02:22:46,540
done before we have to learn how to do

2983
02:22:50,639 --> 02:22:48,280
things we've never done before

2984
02:22:53,940 --> 02:22:50,649
because that's what enables survival to

2985
02:22:55,740 --> 02:22:53,950
continue we don't just arrive at a

2986
02:22:59,219 --> 02:22:55,750
comfortable place and everything from

2987
02:23:00,960 --> 02:22:59,229
then on is is easy no we keep having to

2988
02:23:03,210 --> 02:23:00,970
deal with problems the survival and

2989
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:03,220
competition is one of those problems and

2990
02:23:08,130 --> 02:23:06,490
we are facing now competition so I think

2991
02:23:09,929 --> 02:23:08,140
this is a real call to surface for

2992
02:23:13,020 --> 02:23:09,939
people I think it's a call to integrity

2993
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:13,030
I think it's a call to a spiritual

2994
02:23:17,940 --> 02:23:15,520
awakening because spiritual awakening

2995
02:23:20,610 --> 02:23:17,950
isn't about bliss and glory it's about

2996
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:20,620
service in the world simple service

2997
02:23:25,980 --> 02:23:22,330
doing something it really needs to be

2998
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:25,990
done that in my view is what spiritually

2999
02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:27,340
leads to and what it ultimately means

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02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:31,330
here on earth and we have a time now

3001
02:23:37,370 --> 02:23:34,810
when the needs are so great the harvest

3002
02:23:39,740 --> 02:23:37,380
is plentiful but the laborers are few

3003
02:23:41,969 --> 02:23:39,750
we are all here to make a difference

3004
02:23:44,700 --> 02:23:41,979
we're not here just to be comfortable

3005
02:23:46,530 --> 02:23:44,710
and happy and checked out we are here to

3006
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:46,540
make a real difference and we need

3007
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:49,930
something now that can do this for all

3008
02:23:54,300 --> 02:23:51,760
the nations of the world who are facing

3009
02:23:57,540 --> 02:23:54,310
the same outcome should the intervention

3010
02:23:59,490 --> 02:23:57,550
continue in its current pathway how did

3011
02:24:02,429 --> 02:23:59,500
we do that without fear though because

3012
02:24:04,770 --> 02:24:02,439
that's all we seem to understand don't

3013
02:24:07,980 --> 02:24:04,780
worry about love and fear do what is

3014
02:24:10,530 --> 02:24:07,990
true listen fear do you think the Dalai

3015
02:24:12,900 --> 02:24:10,540
Lama is not afraid of what's happened to

3016
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:12,910
the people of Tibet I mean fear is

3017
02:24:19,461 --> 02:24:15,490
can be used purposefully in this

3018
02:24:22,650 --> 02:24:19,471
situation if we try to not be fearful at

3019
02:24:24,451 --> 02:24:22,660
the expense of seeing clearly then there

3020
02:24:27,331 --> 02:24:24,461
were kind of betraying ourselves right

3021
02:24:28,860 --> 02:24:27,341
we're going to be afraid this is over

3022
02:24:30,421 --> 02:24:28,870
who will look overwhelming many people

3023
02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:30,431
just give up they just can't handle it

3024
02:24:35,940 --> 02:24:32,530
but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be

3025
02:24:37,051 --> 02:24:35,950
handled shouldn't be addressed that's

3026
02:24:38,761 --> 02:24:37,061
why you're doing what you're doing

3027
02:24:41,791 --> 02:24:38,771
that's why I'm doing what I'm doing I

3028
02:24:45,961 --> 02:24:41,801
mean we're doing this because it has to

3029
02:24:49,501 --> 02:24:45,971
happen and we're doing it out of a deep

3030
02:24:50,940 --> 02:24:49,511
love for Humanity in this world and from

3031
02:24:53,341 --> 02:24:50,950
a deep love of freedom because in the

3032
02:24:54,810 --> 02:24:53,351
end it's all about freedom and freedom

3033
02:24:57,511 --> 02:24:54,820
is rare in the universe from what the

3034
02:24:59,190 --> 02:24:57,521
new message tells us that's not how most

3035
02:25:02,701 --> 02:24:59,200
races evolve that's not where they

3036
02:25:04,591 --> 02:25:02,711
usually end up so to be a free race in

3037
02:25:06,211 --> 02:25:04,601
the universe it's a very remarkable

3038
02:25:09,961 --> 02:25:06,221
achievement but it has to be earned and

3039
02:25:13,230 --> 02:25:09,971
it will be challenged and that is our

3040
02:25:18,150 --> 02:25:13,240
challenge and that is our opportunity in

3041
02:25:21,871 --> 02:25:18,160
this kind of great dilemma for Humanity

3042
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:21,881
is the great opportunity we are in

3043
02:25:27,150 --> 02:25:24,160
exciting times Marshall there's no

3044
02:25:30,781 --> 02:25:27,160
question about that now what's the best

3045
02:25:32,701 --> 02:25:30,791
way as we we're here at the end here and

3046
02:25:34,470 --> 02:25:32,711
I wish we can keep going well we'll do

3047
02:25:36,900 --> 02:25:34,480
this again next month and continue this

3048
02:25:39,411 --> 02:25:36,910
on another show but what's the best way

3049
02:25:43,531 --> 02:25:39,421
for everybody we have allies of humanity

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02:25:45,390 --> 02:25:43,541
org your writings your videos where is

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02:25:47,581 --> 02:25:45,400
the best place to go and access all of

3052
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this well the first the allies of

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humanity briefings are a beautiful place

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to begin they're all free online all

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three sets of them are free online at

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new message no RG which is our big

3057
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website we have the new book that just

3058
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came out life in the universe excuse me

3059
02:26:05,161 --> 02:26:02,891
the greater community contact with life

3060
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in the universe that can be read free

3061
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online most of my work is free online

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because I'm trying to reach a world

3063
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audience anyone who has a phone or a

3064
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computer has a chance to go read these

3065
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things we're also doing tremendous

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translation work we have translations in

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27 languages currently we have 51

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translators working country

3069
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there times you're doing this important

3070
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activity we're doing what we can to

3071
02:26:35,260 --> 02:26:31,310
bring this information to people to give

3072
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them a chance to experience it I think

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the new message website anything dealing

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with worldwide community the worldwide

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community is a new thing that we've

3076
02:26:47,409 --> 02:26:43,189
started for people all over the world

3077
02:26:49,449 --> 02:26:47,419
can either talk to each other we have a

3078
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free school where you know I present

3079
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teachings to people no charge and we

3080
02:26:56,260 --> 02:26:54,169
have people from many countries involved

3081
02:26:57,969 --> 02:26:56,270
with that so we're trying to do whatever

3082
02:27:01,510 --> 02:26:57,979
work we can to bring this to as many

3083
02:27:03,550 --> 02:27:01,520
people as we can and we know it's a huge

3084
02:27:07,290 --> 02:27:03,560
thing to face this is a hard thing to

3085
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:07,300
face it will challenge many of our ideas

3086
02:27:12,849 --> 02:27:10,010
but it is so important and for many

3087
02:27:15,939 --> 02:27:12,859
people this is like this is what they've

3088
02:27:17,710 --> 02:27:15,949
been looking for I want to thank you for

3089
02:27:19,899 --> 02:27:17,720
for coming on tonight and I can't wait

3090
02:27:21,880 --> 02:27:19,909
to bring you back on are you going to

3091
02:27:26,079 --> 02:27:21,890
I've got 30 seconds are you going to be

3092
02:27:28,300 --> 02:27:26,089
speaking anywhere out publicly no I'm

3093
02:27:30,609 --> 02:27:28,310
just doing a I'm just doing broadcasting

3094
02:27:31,090 --> 02:27:30,619
and interviews at this time well there

3095
02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:31,100
you go

3096
02:27:34,359 --> 02:27:32,720
well you've got a new outlet here on

3097
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fade to black for sure Marshall thank

3098
02:27:38,319 --> 02:27:37,489
you so much what appreciate your being a

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02:27:39,819 --> 02:27:38,329
host for me tonight

3100
02:27:41,920 --> 02:27:39,829
I really do absolutely great

3101
02:27:44,349 --> 02:27:41,930
conversation and we'll do it again here

3102
02:27:46,750 --> 02:27:44,359
very soon thank you so much thanks

3103
02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:46,760
Marshall Sommers everybody great

3104
02:27:50,979 --> 02:27:48,770
conversation now all of the links for

3105
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Marshall are over at Jimmy Church

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radio.com allies of humanity org is

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right there click on it go check it out

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everything is available and it's there

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for free thank you so much Marshall

3110
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summers this is fade to black but it

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take a quick short break and then I'll

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open up the phone lines

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this is fade to black I'm the game

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changer network in KCRA the planet I'll

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JC our Jimmy shirts radiojohn yah

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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opening up the phone lines right now 3 2

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3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 this

3193
02:32:46,281 --> 02:32:43,431
has been one of the most insane weeks

3194
02:32:51,671 --> 02:32:46,291
ever could be one of the most important

3195
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weeks in the history of the human race I

3196
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don't know I'm still digesting all of it

3197
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I don't know what the motivations are

3198
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the for this for this type of disclosure

3199
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to happen of it it's it's it's in in

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some respects it's been tiny and on the

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flip side it has been absolutely

3202
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humongous huge okay the the reasons for

3203
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:21,661
it we have to seriously step back and

3204
02:33:29,031 --> 02:33:26,730
examine what has just happened it has

3205
02:33:31,401 --> 02:33:29,041
not slowed down in the mainstream media

3206
02:33:35,901 --> 02:33:31,411
that's the first part of it it has been

3207
02:33:40,161 --> 02:33:35,911
ongoing all day everywhere it is

3208
02:33:42,770 --> 02:33:40,171
certainly huge news but what do we do

3209
02:33:44,901 --> 02:33:42,780
with it and the other part and and I do

3210
02:33:51,251 --> 02:33:44,911
mean this and I do want to hear from you

3211
02:33:57,861 --> 02:33:51,261
3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5

3212
02:34:01,371 --> 02:33:57,871
is why that's the I'm gonna I'm gonna

3213
02:34:07,731 --> 02:34:01,381
I'm gonna put out 2 or 3 or 4 different

3214
02:34:13,911 --> 02:34:07,741
ideas here of for the why marshal

3215
02:34:16,991 --> 02:34:13,921
touched upon this tonight and it is why

3216
02:34:21,441 --> 02:34:17,001
you know the why part why do this

3217
02:34:25,871 --> 02:34:21,451
disclosure now is it because and this is

3218
02:34:32,470 --> 02:34:25,881
point number one are they trying to

3219
02:34:37,030 --> 02:34:32,480
control what is happening in other words

3220
02:34:41,780 --> 02:34:37,040
remember this video forget about the the

3221
02:34:45,081 --> 02:34:41,790
and Harry Reid and the the warehouse

3222
02:34:47,631 --> 02:34:45,091
that is in Las Vegas with with evidence

3223
02:34:51,230 --> 02:34:47,641
in it well you can put all of that to

3224
02:34:54,440 --> 02:34:51,240
the side the question is why are they

3225
02:34:56,570 --> 02:34:54,450
trying to control something else that

3226
02:34:59,720 --> 02:34:56,580
they can't control

3227
02:35:02,810 --> 02:34:59,730
is there another is there another step

3228
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:02,820
to this that is about to get disclosed I

3229
02:35:06,610 --> 02:35:05,250
think that is a big that is a big

3230
02:35:10,761 --> 02:35:06,620
question that we have to ask ourselves

3231
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:10,771
you know is is the why part are they

3232
02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:14,160
trying to control something else that is

3233
02:35:21,770 --> 02:35:17,330
not in their control I have said over

3234
02:35:24,591 --> 02:35:21,780
and over again not that I am right or

3235
02:35:27,890 --> 02:35:24,601
not that I know something that's not the

3236
02:35:30,921 --> 02:35:27,900
point that disclosure when it was going

3237
02:35:33,921 --> 02:35:30,931
to happen would be probably be something

3238
02:35:37,220 --> 02:35:33,931
that is out of the government's hands it

3239
02:35:40,850 --> 02:35:37,230
could be WikiLeaks it could be a hack it

3240
02:35:43,730 --> 02:35:40,860
could be and before I even say that yeah

3241
02:35:47,301 --> 02:35:43,740
the whole Julian Assange thing was was

3242
02:35:50,030 --> 02:35:47,311
pretty comical in his response to it but

3243
02:35:52,850 --> 02:35:50,040
it could be some kind of document dump

3244
02:35:55,160 --> 02:35:52,860
it could be a hack into some computers

3245
02:35:57,970 --> 02:35:55,170
it could be just something that has

3246
02:36:00,711 --> 02:35:57,980
nothing to do with the government at all

3247
02:36:04,310 --> 02:36:00,721
okay and that's how disclosure would

3248
02:36:09,230 --> 02:36:04,320
happen could it be who said it yesterday

3249
02:36:11,331 --> 02:36:09,240
was it I think it was LA Marzulli I hope

3250
02:36:13,371 --> 02:36:11,341
I'm giving the right credit here le

3251
02:36:17,060 --> 02:36:13,381
Marzulli said yesterday you know what

3252
02:36:19,940 --> 02:36:17,070
disclosure would be is a mile-wide craft

3253
02:36:21,261 --> 02:36:19,950
you know flying over Los Angeles flying

3254
02:36:25,011 --> 02:36:21,271
over New York City

3255
02:36:28,910 --> 02:36:25,021
you know Independence Day certainly that

3256
02:36:31,280 --> 02:36:28,920
would be that would be disclosure but is

3257
02:36:33,440 --> 02:36:31,290
there something like that that is is

3258
02:36:37,070 --> 02:36:33,450
happening we just had this interstellar

3259
02:36:39,560 --> 02:36:37,080
object go through our solar system for

3260
02:36:41,570 --> 02:36:39,570
the first time there are reports down

3261
02:36:44,180 --> 02:36:41,580
that it's covered with organic material

3262
02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:44,190
I did read that we were trying to get

3263
02:36:50,400 --> 02:36:46,490
radio messages off of this we certainly

3264
02:36:56,131 --> 02:36:52,830
are they aware of that is is it just

3265
02:36:57,960 --> 02:36:56,141
some type of probe it could be it could

3266
02:37:00,330 --> 02:36:57,970
be that as well but all of this is

3267
02:37:02,430 --> 02:37:00,340
happening at the same time as well as

3268
02:37:06,000 --> 02:37:02,440
the FS PS the fast radio bursts the

3269
02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:06,010
discovery of exoplanets the bacteria on

3270
02:37:11,190 --> 02:37:07,840
the outside of the International Space

3271
02:37:13,350 --> 02:37:11,200
Station and now this massive disclosure

3272
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:13,360
event this past weekend this all went

3273
02:37:24,631 --> 02:37:18,000
down in a big way in like 30 days

3274
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:24,641
tremendous alien news I and I I don't

3275
02:37:31,591 --> 02:37:27,760
know what to make of it but listen

3276
02:37:34,920 --> 02:37:31,601
everybody this is what you've wanted how

3277
02:37:36,720 --> 02:37:34,930
many phone calls how many guests have

3278
02:37:38,850 --> 02:37:36,730
been dealing with disclosure on this

3279
02:37:42,120 --> 02:37:38,860
program for the last four years I ask

3280
02:37:45,091 --> 02:37:42,130
you it's it's a daily thing the email

3281
02:37:47,970 --> 02:37:45,101
the post the text it's just disclosure

3282
02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:47,980
disclosed and then boom we get it and we

3283
02:37:51,990 --> 02:37:51,010
almost don't know what to do that's

3284
02:37:53,700 --> 02:37:52,000
extraordinary

3285
02:37:56,670 --> 02:37:53,710
and the fact that the world is not

3286
02:37:59,820 --> 02:37:56,680
freaking out right now says a whole

3287
02:38:03,270 --> 02:37:59,830
nother message to us you know that is

3288
02:38:05,341 --> 02:38:03,280
what what you know the reason why it

3289
02:38:07,131 --> 02:38:05,351
hasn't been disclosed over the years or

3290
02:38:10,070 --> 02:38:07,141
talked about over the years is because

3291
02:38:12,330 --> 02:38:10,080
the the the world would collapse

3292
02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:12,340
economies would collapse a religion

3293
02:38:18,631 --> 02:38:14,710
would collapse it would government's

3294
02:38:21,301 --> 02:38:18,641
would just it would be insanity and it

3295
02:38:25,790 --> 02:38:21,311
didn't happen we have had the most

3296
02:38:29,400 --> 02:38:25,800
massive mass media blitz on disclosure

3297
02:38:31,680 --> 02:38:29,410
since Saturday that that one could hope

3298
02:38:35,011 --> 02:38:31,690
for it's all out there

3299
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:35,021
and no response from the Vatican no

3300
02:38:40,650 --> 02:38:38,110
response out of Israel no response out

3301
02:38:43,770 --> 02:38:40,660
of the Oval Office and it is certainly

3302
02:38:46,650 --> 02:38:43,780
out there in everybody's faces and it's

3303
02:38:48,930 --> 02:38:46,660
not like everybody's throwing their arms

3304
02:38:51,841 --> 02:38:48,940
up in the air quitting their jobs and

3305
02:38:54,591 --> 02:38:51,851
losing their minds you know we haven't

3306
02:39:00,930 --> 02:38:54,601
had seen this part of the collapse why

3307
02:39:03,660 --> 02:39:00,940
have we been so acclimated to to this

3308
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:03,670
question now not only through programs

3309
02:39:07,610 --> 02:39:04,210
like the

3310
02:39:10,230 --> 02:39:07,620
in ancient aliens and and and books and

3311
02:39:14,790 --> 02:39:10,240
conferences and documentaries and the

3312
02:39:18,060 --> 02:39:14,800
x-files and all the movies is has all of

3313
02:39:22,890 --> 02:39:18,070
this done its job to the point where

3314
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:22,900
this is not that big of a deal to the

3315
02:39:27,330 --> 02:39:24,880
rest of the world it's a big deal buzz

3316
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:27,340
because we've been wanting it but think

3317
02:39:32,190 --> 02:39:30,160
about it in those terms and the way that

3318
02:39:35,270 --> 02:39:32,200
Marshall went through all of this

3319
02:39:38,300 --> 02:39:35,280
tonight I think it was very compelling I

3320
02:39:40,620 --> 02:39:38,310
really really really do very interesting

3321
02:39:41,880 --> 02:39:40,630
conversation with that let's go to the

3322
02:39:47,130 --> 02:39:41,890
phones hi you're live on fade to black

3323
02:39:49,160 --> 02:39:47,140
who's calling hi Jimmy this is Paul I'm

3324
02:39:52,650 --> 02:39:49,170
doing great Paul I am absolutely

3325
02:39:58,200 --> 02:39:52,660
ecstatic in the words of the great Mike

3326
02:40:00,420 --> 02:39:58,210
Tyson I'm ecstatic I am I feel great how

3327
02:40:04,010 --> 02:40:00,430
you feeling you know you know you know

3328
02:40:08,400 --> 02:40:04,020
Jim Jimmy you know I'm really very

3329
02:40:10,980 --> 02:40:08,410
positive about some of these things that

3330
02:40:16,500 --> 02:40:10,990
have come out you know you know this

3331
02:40:19,080 --> 02:40:16,510
past Saturday and and whatnot but what

3332
02:40:25,620 --> 02:40:19,090
it is that this is the reason that I

3333
02:40:29,010 --> 02:40:25,630
called here tonight is you live we not

3334
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:29,020
just you but you know we we live in a

3335
02:40:35,730 --> 02:40:33,520
world in which supposedly we live in

3336
02:40:39,750 --> 02:40:35,740
these democracies where there is a

3337
02:40:43,620 --> 02:40:39,760
Canada or the United States and our

3338
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:43,630
elected officials the people that we

3339
02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:49,120
that we voted to represent us need to

3340
02:40:58,560 --> 02:40:55,090
step up to the plate and and take notice

3341
02:41:05,250 --> 02:40:58,570
of these things that we we value so much

3342
02:41:10,140 --> 02:41:05,260
is like like if they don't step up to

3343
02:41:13,469 --> 02:41:10,150
the plate and say hey well who's they

3344
02:41:18,031 --> 02:41:13,479
Paul well the people that the people

3345
02:41:20,161 --> 02:41:18,041
that we voted as their elected official

3346
02:41:21,691 --> 02:41:20,171
don't you think they stepped up to the

3347
02:41:24,810 --> 02:41:21,701
plate somewhat

3348
02:41:26,451 --> 02:41:24,820
to some degree by allowing this video to

3349
02:41:30,060 --> 02:41:26,461
get released

3350
02:41:32,970 --> 02:41:30,070
well well I'd like to ask you that

3351
02:41:35,520 --> 02:41:32,980
question then Jimmy how is it that did

3352
02:41:37,470 --> 02:41:35,530
did they do did they step up to the

3353
02:41:41,361 --> 02:41:37,480
plate and allow that video to be

3354
02:41:46,171 --> 02:41:44,100
well I I think that you just said that

3355
02:41:48,381 --> 02:41:46,181
they stepped up to the plate and allowed

3356
02:41:53,041 --> 02:41:48,391
it to be released thank you that's what

3357
02:41:57,060 --> 02:41:53,051
that's what I'm saying you know so but

3358
02:41:59,611 --> 02:41:57,070
the question is I think that obviously

3359
02:42:02,281 --> 02:41:59,621
there was motivation to allowing that

3360
02:42:05,131 --> 02:42:02,291
video out into the public domain and to

3361
02:42:09,091 --> 02:42:05,141
allow it to get debated there was a

3362
02:42:11,731 --> 02:42:09,101
reason for that those reasons are nearly

3363
02:42:15,901 --> 02:42:11,741
infinite I can give you ten off at the

3364
02:42:19,140 --> 02:42:15,911
top of my head certainly one of them and

3365
02:42:23,911 --> 02:42:19,150
the obvious one is to try to control the

3366
02:42:26,911 --> 02:42:23,921
message by testing the waters dipping

3367
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:26,921
your tag you know what you know I feel

3368
02:42:33,031 --> 02:42:29,530
that and I think that everyone else

3369
02:42:36,810 --> 02:42:33,041
feels that but I think I think the

3370
02:42:42,680 --> 02:42:36,820
reality is is that you know you and I

3371
02:42:52,111 --> 02:42:47,731
infinitely aware of you know we were

3372
02:42:56,071 --> 02:42:52,121
aware of this but you know that doesn't

3373
02:43:00,541 --> 02:42:56,081
really end into into the mass

3374
02:43:03,571 --> 02:43:00,551
consciousness of everyone else well it

3375
02:43:04,441 --> 02:43:03,581
hasn't yet and I think that and that's a

3376
02:43:07,911 --> 02:43:04,451
really good point

3377
02:43:11,341 --> 02:43:07,921
I think that's there are some out there

3378
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:11,351
inside and outside of DC inside and

3379
02:43:16,890 --> 02:43:14,110
outside of this community that wanted to

3380
02:43:19,770 --> 02:43:16,900
see how much of that would happen you

3381
02:43:22,651 --> 02:43:19,780
know the effect of it how far would this

3382
02:43:24,991 --> 02:43:22,661
affect somebody did it affect you Paul

3383
02:43:28,951 --> 02:43:25,001
did you quit your job today is there no

3384
02:43:31,710 --> 02:43:28,961
reason to pay taxes right I don't think

3385
02:43:34,800 --> 02:43:31,720
you have are you depressed

3386
02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:34,810
I don't think you are are you unhappy

3387
02:43:39,540 --> 02:43:37,810
no you wanted this to happen I'm

3388
02:43:42,330 --> 02:43:39,550
answering all of these questions for you

3389
02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:42,340
because I think that that is a general

3390
02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:47,770
consensus of not quite blasé right but

3391
02:43:52,979 --> 02:43:51,010
you know I'm I'm just as frustrated you

3392
02:43:55,260 --> 02:43:52,989
know about things as you are Jimmy but

3393
02:43:58,800 --> 02:43:55,270
I'm trying to make some sense of this

3394
02:44:01,410 --> 02:43:58,810
at the same time right right and we all

3395
02:44:03,360 --> 02:44:01,420
are I mean I just it's exactly what I

3396
02:44:05,729 --> 02:44:03,370
just said then at the beginning of this

3397
02:44:08,969 --> 02:44:05,739
show Paul but right before answering

3398
02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:08,979
your phone call I was asking you know

3399
02:44:15,500 --> 02:44:11,680
I'm confused I need some answers here

3400
02:44:18,860 --> 02:44:15,510
I'm happy I mean I cannot believe that

3401
02:44:22,679 --> 02:44:18,870
what went down on Saturday actually

3402
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:22,689
finally went down but now what do we do

3403
02:44:28,559 --> 02:44:25,600
with it what do we do with it how do we

3404
02:44:31,019 --> 02:44:28,569
move forward you know and you know you

3405
02:44:33,630 --> 02:44:31,029
know this isn't the end we can't go

3406
02:44:35,280 --> 02:44:33,640
backwards yeah you know you don't you

3407
02:44:40,290 --> 02:44:35,290
know what the funny you know the funny

3408
02:44:43,139 --> 02:44:40,300
thing is is that I'm starting to think

3409
02:44:47,490 --> 02:44:43,149
that the way that you move forward with

3410
02:44:51,870 --> 02:44:47,500
things is from within you know you know

3411
02:44:55,800 --> 02:44:51,880
what I mean I do I do now the quite and

3412
02:44:57,750 --> 02:44:55,810
again yes see inside of this community

3413
02:45:02,010 --> 02:44:57,760
Paul inside of this community that's an

3414
02:45:05,070 --> 02:45:02,020
easy thing to understand and do okay but

3415
02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:05,080
I raised the big picture here the big

3416
02:45:14,460 --> 02:45:12,160
question and I'm not when we have half

3417
02:45:19,290 --> 02:45:14,470
of the world three and a half billion

3418
02:45:24,090 --> 02:45:19,300
people that that are in extreme poverty

3419
02:45:26,250 --> 02:45:24,100
extreme I live in a home I live in a

3420
02:45:28,590 --> 02:45:26,260
home Paul and I know that you do too

3421
02:45:30,690 --> 02:45:28,600
I've never met you I don't know where

3422
02:45:32,849 --> 02:45:30,700
you live but you know what I bet you got

3423
02:45:35,519 --> 02:45:32,859
a couple of flat screen TVs somewhere

3424
02:45:37,950 --> 02:45:35,529
and I bet you have a computer or two and

3425
02:45:40,559 --> 02:45:37,960
I bet you have a smartphone and I bet

3426
02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:40,569
you own a car and I bet you are able to

3427
02:45:43,700 --> 02:45:42,850
go to the market every day and buy some

3428
02:45:47,450 --> 02:45:43,710
food and

3429
02:45:49,280 --> 02:45:47,460
I scream and things that you enjoy you

3430
02:45:51,490 --> 02:45:49,290
know what three and a half billion

3431
02:45:56,719 --> 02:45:51,500
people in this world don't have that

3432
02:46:00,980 --> 02:45:56,729
they do not have it so the et question

3433
02:46:01,640 --> 02:46:00,990
what does it matter to them what does it

3434
02:46:04,580 --> 02:46:01,650
matter

3435
02:46:07,550 --> 02:46:04,590
do they care about contact with et do

3436
02:46:10,610 --> 02:46:07,560
they even think about it do they what

3437
02:46:13,070 --> 02:46:10,620
how does it affect them and that is the

3438
02:46:20,560 --> 02:46:13,080
bigger picture here and that is where we

3439
02:46:27,680 --> 02:46:23,390
you know what it takes for them to get

3440
02:46:31,400 --> 02:46:27,690
here and and and all that is and you

3441
02:46:33,320 --> 02:46:31,410
know that ger and all the rest of them

3442
02:46:39,350 --> 02:46:33,330
have been talking about is where is that

3443
02:46:43,630 --> 02:46:39,360
really well okay so if and that if the

3444
02:46:49,010 --> 02:46:43,640
bigger picture here is a technology

3445
02:46:52,010 --> 02:46:49,020
whatever it may be that would allow free

3446
02:46:54,680 --> 02:46:52,020
energy and and homes being built and

3447
02:46:57,890 --> 02:46:54,690
that free energy allowing food to be

3448
02:47:00,230 --> 02:46:57,900
grown and and processed and distributed

3449
02:47:04,130 --> 02:47:00,240
freely throughout the world and we could

3450
02:47:06,920 --> 02:47:04,140
solve so many issues if that is indeed

3451
02:47:11,150 --> 02:47:06,930
the case this is which is Jimmy Jimmy

3452
02:47:14,050 --> 02:47:11,160
Jimmy Jimmy the technology and the

3453
02:47:17,420 --> 02:47:14,060
issues that would be solved during then

3454
02:47:18,980 --> 02:47:17,430
but that's it there it's magic but

3455
02:47:22,010 --> 02:47:18,990
that's exactly my point

3456
02:47:27,050 --> 02:47:22,020
and so if that is indeed the case those

3457
02:47:29,900 --> 02:47:27,060
out there right if they can't make money

3458
02:47:33,170 --> 02:47:29,910
off of that then it's not going to

3459
02:47:35,690 --> 02:47:33,180
happen and the moral breakdown and and

3460
02:47:38,330 --> 02:47:35,700
and and that in that's exactly where

3461
02:47:41,420 --> 02:47:38,340
it's at and that's exactly where it's at

3462
02:47:43,730 --> 02:47:41,430
yeah yeah and so I don't know man I

3463
02:47:44,750 --> 02:47:43,740
don't know how we I don't know how we

3464
02:47:46,610 --> 02:47:44,760
move forward

3465
02:47:49,940 --> 02:47:46,620
Etan that'sthat's the problem yeah yeah

3466
02:47:54,560 --> 02:47:49,950
and you know and and that's exactly and

3467
02:47:57,320 --> 02:47:54,570
and and and you know i-i've said to

3468
02:48:01,100 --> 02:47:57,330
myself you know the way that

3469
02:48:07,790 --> 02:48:01,110
she moved forward is you organize

3470
02:48:13,400 --> 02:48:07,800
yourself in groups and and these are and

3471
02:48:16,160 --> 02:48:13,410
groups of people who who you know you

3472
02:48:18,440 --> 02:48:16,170
utilize the technology that you have to

3473
02:48:21,200 --> 02:48:18,450
actually do it yeah you're right Paul

3474
02:48:22,580 --> 02:48:21,210
you're right but we have to seriously

3475
02:48:26,810 --> 02:48:22,590
this is the thing that is an

3476
02:48:29,770 --> 02:48:26,820
insurmountable object in front of us man

3477
02:48:32,660 --> 02:48:29,780
it's insurmountable I hope that we don't

3478
02:48:34,370 --> 02:48:32,670
hey Paul thank you for the phone call

3479
02:48:36,590 --> 02:48:34,380
and we'll see you tomorrow night on the

3480
02:48:38,690 --> 02:48:36,600
show he always brings up the right

3481
02:48:46,490 --> 02:48:38,700
question hi your life on fade to black

3482
02:48:48,051 --> 02:48:46,500
who's calling my man my man I knew it

3483
02:48:51,950 --> 02:48:48,061
was you I just wanted to hear you say

3484
02:48:54,051 --> 02:48:51,960
hello Jimmy Church Steve from Bloomfield

3485
02:48:57,620 --> 02:48:54,061
everybody now we haven't heard from you

3486
02:49:04,400 --> 02:48:57,630
I expected to hear from you and it was

3487
02:49:09,290 --> 02:49:04,410
tonight how are you feeling my man and I

3488
02:49:13,011 --> 02:49:09,300
am tickled beyond the least that we

3489
02:49:19,610 --> 02:49:13,021
finally finally have got the mainstream

3490
02:49:23,420 --> 02:49:19,620
media on board and I believe that will

3491
02:49:27,770 --> 02:49:23,430
really grow start seeing more and more

3492
02:49:31,610 --> 02:49:27,780
and more of this information it probably

3493
02:49:36,280 --> 02:49:31,620
is not going to trickle down as fast as

3494
02:49:43,570 --> 02:49:36,290
we all would like but they have cracked

3495
02:49:52,670 --> 02:49:43,580
the box I may have let a little bit of

3496
02:49:56,180 --> 02:49:52,680
the information there they're saying we

3497
02:50:06,770 --> 02:49:56,190
want to tell you but we just don't know

3498
02:50:09,440 --> 02:50:06,780
how to tell you man you know and it is

3499
02:50:10,819 --> 02:50:09,450
kind of the you know dipping your toe in

3500
02:50:12,469 --> 02:50:10,829
the water kind of thing

3501
02:50:15,319 --> 02:50:12,479
you know what I mean you're at the edge

3502
02:50:17,929 --> 02:50:15,329
of the cliff man and it's black out

3503
02:50:19,460 --> 02:50:17,939
there it's nighttime and you got to feel

3504
02:50:21,800 --> 02:50:19,470
the edge of the cliff a little bit and

3505
02:50:22,580 --> 02:50:21,810
you don't know exactly what's gonna

3506
02:50:25,189 --> 02:50:22,590
happen

3507
02:50:30,050 --> 02:50:25,199
so they did it this way is that what

3508
02:50:36,069 --> 02:50:30,060
you're saying yes it's well how did you

3509
02:50:46,969 --> 02:50:42,529
with a cheer I mean with I mean I was

3510
02:50:49,399 --> 02:50:46,979
you know kidding to danced you know to

3511
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:49,409
hear that the peano we're getting this

3512
02:50:56,779 --> 02:50:52,640
information from them from the Pentagon

3513
02:50:58,519 --> 02:50:56,789
okay you know you know even though that

3514
02:51:02,809 --> 02:50:58,529
you know to the stars

3515
02:51:05,599 --> 02:51:02,819
you know without a doubt had had an

3516
02:51:09,769 --> 02:51:05,609
influence you know I believe with with

3517
02:51:14,660 --> 02:51:09,779
the release of this information and I

3518
02:51:17,389 --> 02:51:14,670
believe that they're going to help push

3519
02:51:21,109 --> 02:51:17,399
more one more of that information to be

3520
02:51:23,899 --> 02:51:21,119
released but you're going to get to a

3521
02:51:31,779 --> 02:51:23,909
point Jimmy where you know you can only

3522
02:51:37,460 --> 02:51:31,789
release so many f-18 or f-22 you know

3523
02:51:42,740 --> 02:51:37,470
f-14 whatever playing you know video of

3524
02:51:45,710 --> 02:51:42,750
these craft and so many radar images you

3525
02:51:48,439 --> 02:51:45,720
know these craft before you're going to

3526
02:51:52,760 --> 02:51:48,449
have to release something that has some

3527
02:51:54,649 --> 02:51:52,770
a little bit more substance to it and

3528
02:51:57,679 --> 02:51:54,659
what would it be then just yeah no I

3529
02:52:00,830 --> 02:51:57,689
know I know in your eye I so agree with

3530
02:52:02,359 --> 02:52:00,840
you Steve but what would it be what

3531
02:52:05,059 --> 02:52:02,369
would it be what do you do do you March

3532
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:05,069
et out onto a stage somewhere holding

3533
02:52:10,939 --> 02:52:08,399
hands and go you know you know meet well

3534
02:52:13,790 --> 02:52:10,949
my dad I don't think that we'll see that

3535
02:52:19,700 --> 02:52:13,800
you know we'll probably get some kind of

3536
02:52:24,500 --> 02:52:19,710
investment from NASA that there's you

3537
02:52:27,261 --> 02:52:24,510
know there's some kind of you know

3538
02:52:30,080 --> 02:52:27,271
non intelligent life form that's been

3539
02:52:32,900 --> 02:52:30,090
failing rice covered right

3540
02:52:37,700 --> 02:52:32,910
you know it'll start there and and then

3541
02:52:40,881 --> 02:52:37,710
a year or so later then you know they'll

3542
02:52:46,970 --> 02:52:40,891
be probably some announcement that we've

3543
02:52:50,450 --> 02:52:46,980
picked up some kind of radio traffic you

3544
02:52:56,740 --> 02:52:50,460
know that or you know something or

3545
02:53:02,810 --> 02:52:56,750
there's there's been some kind of

3546
02:53:04,631 --> 02:53:02,820
evidence of a craft that is massive you

3547
02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:04,641
know or something that's in the

3548
02:53:08,990 --> 02:53:07,530
somewhere you know in orbit or something

3549
02:53:11,810 --> 02:53:09,000
you know something to that effect

3550
02:53:14,870 --> 02:53:11,820
probably but I don't think they're gonna

3551
02:53:21,770 --> 02:53:14,880
March eat you out you know in the middle

3552
02:53:26,060 --> 02:53:21,780
of you know Good Morning America right

3553
02:53:30,200 --> 02:53:26,070
and it's right right you know you know

3554
02:53:32,720 --> 02:53:30,210
that I have you know I have

3555
02:53:34,730 --> 02:53:32,730
I've often you know just kind of tripped

3556
02:53:37,160 --> 02:53:34,740
out alone with myself you know I'm

3557
02:53:38,870 --> 02:53:37,170
watching TV right I'm you know Good

3558
02:53:40,850 --> 02:53:38,880
Morning America whatever some live

3559
02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:40,860
broadcasts and then suddenly over the

3560
02:53:47,540 --> 02:53:43,920
you know in the background you know some

3561
02:53:50,841 --> 02:53:47,550
craft goes cruising by and because that

3562
02:53:53,421 --> 02:53:50,851
when you least expect it right when you

3563
02:53:56,720 --> 02:53:53,431
least expect it that's when it happens

3564
02:53:59,720 --> 02:53:56,730
you know I have you ever driven down the

3565
02:54:01,310 --> 02:53:59,730
freeway and you know you're just driving

3566
02:54:03,290 --> 02:54:01,320
listening to the radio you're all alone

3567
02:54:06,470 --> 02:54:03,300
and you've thought to yourself what if

3568
02:54:09,610 --> 02:54:06,480
right now boom it happens Independence

3569
02:54:15,860 --> 02:54:09,620
Day right have you ever had that thought

3570
02:54:22,370 --> 02:54:15,870
yes more than will it it's a scary

3571
02:54:25,780 --> 02:54:22,380
thought in a way but for us but for you

3572
02:54:29,690 --> 02:54:25,790
and I I don't think it's as scary as for

3573
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:29,700
the individuals that are not as open to

3574
02:54:39,010 --> 02:54:36,210
the subject as we are you know we we

3575
02:54:48,979 --> 02:54:39,020
know and understand that

3576
02:54:51,349 --> 02:54:48,989
subject is far older than you know 1995

3577
02:54:54,500 --> 02:54:51,359
you know or whenever you know they

3578
02:54:59,090 --> 02:54:54,510
release whatever the dates were on you

3579
02:55:02,929 --> 02:54:59,100
know the FA King video you know we know

3580
02:55:07,330 --> 02:55:02,939
this goes back at least 247 you know

3581
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:12,949
so it's not as big as you know as a

3582
02:55:21,080 --> 02:55:17,010
surprise to us as it is to to the people

3583
02:55:24,460 --> 02:55:21,090
that you know that watch Good Morning

3584
02:55:27,859 --> 02:55:24,470
America and hang on every word you know

3585
02:55:31,250 --> 02:55:27,869
there's those types of people you know

3586
02:55:33,349 --> 02:55:31,260
that's it's gonna be a shock you know

3587
02:55:36,290 --> 02:55:33,359
it'd be a big shock to those people but

3588
02:55:40,090 --> 02:55:36,300
but to you and I Jimmy I think you were

3589
02:55:47,590 --> 02:55:40,100
already in the and the UFO community is

3590
02:55:50,569 --> 02:55:47,600
ready for disclosure but the masses a

3591
02:55:53,269 --> 02:55:50,579
little struggle with it Jimmy there's

3592
02:55:58,279 --> 02:55:53,279
gonna be a lot of there's going to be a

3593
02:56:02,300 --> 02:55:58,289
lot of bad bad things that probably come

3594
02:56:04,880 --> 02:56:02,310
come about because of it I don't you

3595
02:56:09,769 --> 02:56:04,890
know what I'm hoping not I don't I don't

3596
02:56:12,410 --> 02:56:09,779
think so I think that we are able to I

3597
02:56:15,859 --> 02:56:12,420
think that the mainstream media has done

3598
02:56:17,870 --> 02:56:15,869
the best that they could with this right

3599
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:17,880
I don't think any of these hosts are

3600
02:56:22,580 --> 02:56:20,010
experienced in it they've been in denial

3601
02:56:24,349 --> 02:56:22,590
denial from the news directors and

3602
02:56:27,830 --> 02:56:24,359
everybody else that you know works above

3603
02:56:29,750 --> 02:56:27,840
them that you know talking about this is

3604
02:56:32,269 --> 02:56:29,760
something that they've you know it's so

3605
02:56:34,189 --> 02:56:32,279
taboo in mass media but I think that

3606
02:56:37,969 --> 02:56:34,199
they're doing the best that they can

3607
02:56:41,149 --> 02:56:37,979
with it for now and it's only going to

3608
02:56:45,080 --> 02:56:41,159
get better and now that the cat is out

3609
02:56:48,109 --> 02:56:45,090
of the bag so to speak that I think that

3610
02:56:51,230 --> 02:56:48,119
we are able to hopefully control it I

3611
02:56:54,200 --> 02:56:51,240
don't know what is in store

3612
02:56:56,390 --> 02:56:54,210
what the Pentagon has and what they're

3613
02:57:02,211 --> 02:56:56,400
willing to let go of I don't know what

3614
02:57:04,220 --> 02:57:02,221
Tom DeLonge has III don't you know he

3615
02:57:07,580 --> 02:57:04,230
may have something else that is getting

3616
02:57:09,051 --> 02:57:07,590
ready to to come out how you know is it

3617
02:57:11,600 --> 02:57:09,061
going to be a bigger bombshell than this

3618
02:57:14,450 --> 02:57:11,610
I don't know but I think that we're able

3619
02:57:17,511 --> 02:57:14,460
to control it because before Steve we

3620
02:57:19,070 --> 02:57:17,521
didn't have this in our back pocket this

3621
02:57:21,770 --> 02:57:19,080
was the one thing that we were always

3622
02:57:24,440 --> 02:57:21,780
lacking and it allowed the skeptics and

3623
02:57:26,180 --> 02:57:24,450
the government to go you know what no it

3624
02:57:28,790 --> 02:57:26,190
doesn't exist it doesn't exist it does

3625
02:57:31,850 --> 02:57:28,800
it's not that kind of party anymore you

3626
02:57:34,220 --> 02:57:31,860
know that's the that's the thing we are

3627
02:57:36,860 --> 02:57:34,230
able to do any skeptic you know that

3628
02:57:40,790 --> 02:57:36,870
goes well eat eat won't know no et is

3629
02:57:43,400 --> 02:57:40,800
here pal that part of it is is that's

3630
02:57:46,250 --> 02:57:43,410
been answered that part's been answered

3631
02:57:49,070 --> 02:57:46,260
so we have a serious amount of

3632
02:57:54,980 --> 02:57:49,080
discussion moving forward and that's

3633
02:57:59,890 --> 02:57:54,990
what I would definitely like to see that

3634
02:58:03,140 --> 02:57:59,900
the paperwork and the findings of this

3635
02:58:06,671 --> 02:58:03,150
project you know that they were spending

3636
02:58:10,160 --> 02:58:06,681
twenty two million dollars a year with

3637
02:58:13,551 --> 02:58:10,170
you know what what findings I want to

3638
02:58:16,790 --> 02:58:13,561
see those reports you know release those

3639
02:58:24,051 --> 02:58:16,800
findings that that they've been going

3640
02:58:27,890 --> 02:58:24,061
since would they say 2004 2007 yeah 2007

3641
02:58:29,631 --> 02:58:27,900
to 2012 and and hey Steve I got to get

3642
02:58:31,910 --> 02:58:29,641
out of here so we can leave on time I'm

3643
02:58:35,890 --> 02:58:31,920
20 seconds late so I'll see you tomorrow

3644
02:58:40,730 --> 02:58:35,900
night you know congratulations on the

3645
02:58:43,190 --> 02:58:40,740
four years the shows and everything

3646
02:58:46,330 --> 02:58:43,200
brother thank you so much Steve and do

3647
02:58:49,280 --> 02:58:46,340
me a favor call me tomorrow night okay I

3648
02:58:50,360 --> 02:58:49,290
expect to give me always brother thanks

3649
02:58:54,070 --> 02:58:50,370
for the time

3650
02:58:56,570 --> 02:58:54,080
stiva Bloomfield my life is now complete

3651
02:58:58,671 --> 02:58:56,580
see from blue field finally called in

3652
02:59:00,680 --> 02:58:58,681
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3653
02:59:02,820 --> 02:59:00,690
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3654
02:59:04,770 --> 02:59:02,830
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3655
02:59:07,261 --> 02:59:04,780
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3656
02:59:10,080 --> 02:59:07,271
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3657
02:59:11,520 --> 02:59:10,090
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3658
02:59:16,770 --> 02:59:11,530
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3659
02:59:18,750 --> 02:59:16,780
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3660
02:59:21,180 --> 02:59:18,760
to marshall summers for an amazing

3661
02:59:23,670 --> 02:59:21,190
conversation tonight look forward to our

3662
02:59:25,890 --> 02:59:23,680
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3663
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:25,900
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3664
02:59:29,011 --> 02:59:26,800
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3665
02:59:30,380 --> 02:59:29,021
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3666
02:59:32,610 --> 02:59:30,390
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3667
02:59:34,440 --> 02:59:32,620
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3668
02:59:36,390 --> 02:59:34,450
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3669
02:59:40,920 --> 02:59:36,400
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3670
02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:40,930
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3671
02:59:45,930 --> 02:59:43,840
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3672
02:59:48,511 --> 02:59:45,940
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3673
02:59:50,430 --> 02:59:48,521
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3674
02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:50,440
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3675
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